Quote from: Kyle Aaron;883239Remember that the Academy members are not obliged to watch the films they're voting about.

Erm.  For what major award are voters required to be familiar with the nominees?

I've voted for Hugo Awards -- one of the most prestigious literary awards in SF -- more than once.  There were a couple years, and a couple categories, where I'd vote for the one story I'd actually read.  Georg Solti and the Chicago Symphony Orchestra won something like thirty Grammys for best classical performance, and it's hardly because Chicago was so amazingly excellent an orchestra ... I bet it came down to "I don't know shit about classical, but this is the guy who won last year, so he must be good."

No, stop! You're all shattering my illusions of professionalism and expertise!

/pole vaults into traffic

Quote from: Ravenswing;883477Erm.  For what major award are voters required to be familiar with the nominees?

Certainly not any RPG awards.

Quote from: Ravenswing;883477
I've voted for Hugo Awards -- one of the most prestigious literary awards in SF -- more than once.  There were a couple years, and a couple categories, where I'd vote for the one story I'd actually read.  

How do you feel about that?

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;883232I don't think the Oscars have meant that much in a long time. Just look through the list of recipients and count how many of them never come up in conversations or get referenced anymore.

They're probably going to mean even less now that quotas are going to be implemented (and I say that as someone who thinks Spike Lee was robbed more than once).

i agree

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;883239Remember that the Academy members are not obliged to watch the films they're voting about.

Just let that sink in. It explains a lot.

yep and if they had puella magi madoka magika rebelion would have won one a few years back but the fuckers never even watched it

Again you guys are missing the point.  Fury road wasn't supposed to make sense it was supposed to be beautiful and it was.

The oscars aren't supposed to reward the best movies, they are supposed to get us to watch more movies.  And they do.  Seriously they throw a party for themselves so that we don't forget how relevant and important movies are.

Quote from: Headless;884151Again you guys are missing the point.  Fury road wasn't supposed to make sense it was supposed to be beautiful and it was.

Beauty - eye - Beholders - etc.

But you sure are right that it succeeded in not making sense.

This isn't the movie thread guys.

Quote from: Bren;884182Beauty - eye - Beholders - etc.

But you sure are right that it succeeded in not making sense.

It's shallow, full of too-awesome-to-happen moments, and it takes a certain dosage of self-restraint to call it "part of Mad Max franchise", but was it that nonsensical? Just a bunch of guys chasing some chicks, a former sectist, and a guy called Max through one big sandbox.

Quote from: One Horse Town;884185This isn't the movie thread guys.

You say that, but I have read the past two pages and can see that it is.

Maybe I missed it, but I hope someone pointed out a fairly obvious bit: the tires in Fury Road are not easy to take out. In fact most of the tires pictured in the film are already metal/mylar reinforced monstrosities with a ton of armor reinforcement, and whatever is left of the rubber core is possibly not inflatable, from what i could tell, much likelier not to come apart until major damage (such as running over another car) happens. A key exception was the tank/monster truck Immortan Joe was driving....but the main rig Max and Furiosa are piloting had tires that would be better served using sticks of dynamite.

Then, the second important deal: they wanted to capture the women alive, right up effectively to the end of the film, and they wanted to do so with minimal damage to unborn children (two of the women were pregnant iirc, starting with the 9-months due Precious who dies and the other gal who was only recently pregnant). There was a strong vested interest in not crashing the rig with a blown tire, it seemed to me....and I got the impression that (as was said early on in the blog) the value of intact equipment far outweighed the value of some cancer-riddled warboyz. The warboyz, for that matter, were a commodity as well, used by Immortan and his clan for their own purposes. All those babies were not coming from the community as a whole, but from a handful of cancer-ridden mutants who then used a carefully crafted narrative to keep the mostly "healthy" looking warboyz busy killing themselves for Immortan Joe and the honor of Valhalla.

This movie was methodical in its careful construction of a bipolar future survivor culture predicated on a lifestyle of doom, near-future extinction, ever-depleting resources (including the women) and the intense desire for escape through a glorious stunt and a shiny, chrome glittering passage to Valhalla.

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;883997How do you feel about that?

I feel that I was one-up on a lot of voters, who probably voted for the stories their friends told them were good, or that had nice sounding titles, or was written by an author they recognized.

(For those of you scoring at home, the Hugos are awarded by the World Science Fiction Society, and are voted on by the membership of the annual World Science Fiction Convention.  If you preregister as either a supporting or attending member far enough in advance, you get to vote.)

Quote from: Ravenswing;884458I feel that I was one-up on a lot of voters, who probably voted for the stories their friends told them were good, or that had nice sounding titles, or was written by an author they recognized.

(For those of you scoring at home, the Hugos are awarded by the World Science Fiction Society, and are voted on by the membership of the annual World Science Fiction Convention.  If you preregister as either a supporting or attending member far enough in advance, you get to vote.)

Most of the voters are voting along political agenda lines--and they would fit in fine at TBP. Before Sad Puppies and Rabid Puppies, you weren't getting a Hugo if you were a Conservative. Now, nobody gets one in the categories where Conservatives dominate the slate.