I honestly haven't looked much into Chill 3E. It somehow just rubs me the wrong way, though this is absolutely not a well-informed opinion. I do know I really like Cryptworld.

Quote from: 3rik;879463I honestly haven't looked much into Chill 3E. It somehow just rubs me the wrong way, though this is absolutely not a well-informed opinion. I do know I really like Cryptworld.

Yup. Daniel Proctor and Tim Snider did a great job.

Quote from: brettmb;879474Yup. Daniel Proctor and Tim Snider did a great job.

While RPG horror "classics" like Kult and Call of Cthulhu generally aim at emulating quite a dark and serious mood, though they certainly don't always have to be played as such, Cryptworld is definitely a game that puts the fun back in horror.

Quote from: sniderman;879318Yup, and this thingie.

Quote from: brettmb;879336Cryptworld is like the OSR version, using the original system. It's much smaller, easier to use, and cheaper.

Quote from: 3rik;879543While RPG horror "classics" like Kult and Call of Cthulhu generally aim at emulating quite a dark and serious mood, though they certainly don't always have to be played as such, Cryptworld is definitely a game that puts the fun back in horror.

I finished another project, so I can dedicate more attention to CRYPTWORLD now. Each time I steal a few sentences, I recall works like "Dylan Dog", "Kolchak", or those classical movies like "Blob", "Critters" or "Tales from the Crypt" tv series, which is exactly the kind of mood I was hoping for. In fact, I already prepared mini-setting for the purpose of "small town, extraordinarily problems" series of scenarios and I attempted to find some rules to run it, while I was awaiting next edition of CHILL.

I need to finish CW and pay special attention to the ruleset, but so far, I'm very hyped about it and I think it'll be perfect to torment citizens of my little town. ;]

Thanks again, guys!

So what was the verdict on the new Chill? Did anyone see any of the SJW/PC/whatever elements in the book or was it just hearsay?

Quote from: Omega;879772So what was the verdict on the new Chill? Did anyone see any of the SJW/PC/whatever elements in the book or was it just hearsay?

I dunno, didn't read it yet. However, the important thing I see here is lack of interest. Good, well done games rarely meet with that much of a cold shoulder. So, no matter whether it's the case of bad rules update, fluff being rewritten in a wrong way, or indeed, the introduction of Politically Correct elements (as my colleagues suggested), or all at once. It seems that Chill isn't what it used to be.

Quote from: JesterRaiin;879782I dunno, didn't read it yet. However, the important thing I see here is lack of interest. Good, well done games rarely meet with that much of a cold shoulder. So, no matter whether it's the case of bad rules update, fluff being rewritten in a wrong way, or indeed, the introduction of Politically Correct elements (as my colleagues suggested), or all at once. It seems that Chill isn't what it used to be.

I think the Kickstarter was pretty successful. No idea where those backers hang out online but it's apparently not here.

To answer the OP's original question, I didn't recall seeing that much "SJW stuff" so I grabbed my book last night to re-read the pregens.

Each of the pregens gets a full page character sheet.  The top half is all game mechanics while the bottom "half" (lots of white space) is split between a picture of the character and a short description/background.  The backgrounds are roughly 10 sentences long.  Here are the names and any other descriptive details that stand out.

Genevieve Ashford – Canadian, black, female, 28
Basil "BB" Bottomley – Australian, white, male, 30
Rory Calhoun – American, white, transgender man, 30
Miranda Chase – American, white, female, 36
Tyler Copeland – American, black, male, 23
Tessie Dillon – white, female, 23
Nicole Friedman – Israeli parents but grew up in Europe and America, female, 25
Noriko Frost – ½ Japanese ½ American, looks Asian, female, 22
Maria Gallegos – Filipino, w/ recent American citizenship, female, 33
Detective Hector Gonzalez – Mexican, Hispanic, male, 41
Alfred Johnson – Canadian, white, male, 50
Jennifer Joyce – American, white, female, 28
Dr. Jong Koo Kim- South Korean born, sent to USA as a teen, male, 60
Miakoda Lawrence – Native American, female, 24, lesbian/bi?
Moira Malkin- Irish Protestant and French Jewish parents, white, female, 30
Christopher Monroe- American, white, male 34, works as a drag queen
Bradley Oulette- American, white, male, 25, paralyzed from waist down
John Post, Esq.- American, white, male, 44
Thomas Simpson- American, black, male, 45
Amy Veeres- white, transgender female, 24

The 2 trans people's histories are a bit awkward to read.  In Rory's case it is just stuck in the middle and mentions that he began transitioning 2 years ago and his father (who has advanced dementia) sometimes forgets and asks for his "daughter" (the quotes on daughter are theirs, not mine).

For Amy, the first sentence starts "When she was a little boy".  It continues to refer to her as him for half the background and then switches to female pronouns after saying "Ten years later, Amy has discovered that she is a transwoman."

For Miakoda, the only way you would know she was a lesbian, or maybe bi, is that they mention she had to leave her girlfriend behind when she joined the military.

Thanks. So more like mildly PC inclusionist at worst. Nothing to really concern over.

Quote from: rgalex;879979To answer the OP's original question, I didn't recall seeing that much "SJW stuff" so I grabbed my book last night to re-read the pregens.

Thanks!

So, it seems there's some truth to that "SJW/PC infested" claim, even if it's not as horrible as I've heard.

Quote from: JesterRaiin;879985Thanks!

So, it seems there's some truth to that "SJW/PC infested" claim, even if it's not as horrible as I've heard.

Eh. Reads more like a GI Joe roster. :cool:

Quote from: Omega;879987Eh. Reads more like a GI Joe roster. :cool:

Perhaps, but the kitty said these backgrounds are kind of awkward, underdeveloped with the sexuality treated merely like a badge or something. Not my kind of shit. ;]

Just for completeness, this is one of the pregens from the book.



All the pregens are like this.  After them, again, I don't really recall much of anything that made me roll my eyes, but I know some people have a much lower tolerance.

As for the game?  I haven't had a chance to run it but it reads solid and is pretty straight forward in it's presentation.  You may or may not like the light/dark token mechanic, but it's no different than other games that have things some people like and others don't (Savage Worlds and it's Bennies for example).

The 75 or so pages on the history of the setting was obviously a work of love for someone.  It's a very interesting read but I can't really see where a lot of it will be useful when the dice hit the table.  It could probably have been 1/2 as long and just as useful.

That reads kinda weird.
So is Rory a guy transitioning to a girl, or a girl transitioning to a guy? The father asking for his daughter suggests the second?

It is a little odd to foist that off on a player as a pregen. Feels more like an interesting NPC background.

Quote from: rgalex;880029Just for completeness, this is one of the pregens from the book.

Thanks again, man! I appreciate it.

Quote from: Omega;880130That reads kinda weird.
So is Rory a guy transitioning to a girl, or a girl transitioning to a guy? The father asking for his daughter suggests the second?

It is a little odd to foist that off on a player as a pregen. Feels more like an interesting NPC background.

It's like they didn't think it through, merely stitched some scraps together hastily and called it a day.