Poll attached. Personally, i give short shrift to anyone willing to attach the word 'movement' to a set of RPG products. I do my own home-brews, so have no need to buy someone else's. I have d&d editions and books coming out of my ears, so much so that i need no more products of any type for d&d type gaming for the rest of my life, probably.

I have zero fucks to give.

If I was nasty, I'd ask you to define OSR.

I'm not, so define "giving a fuck" instead !

I mean, does it mean I care what the "members of the movement" think? Then it's a resounding no, I'm not even sure who is a member of the OSR movement and who isn't, and it doesn't impact my perception of them as people.

But, if it does mean "are you interested and could possibly purchase new OSR products"?
Then I'd have to vote yes, I might give a fuck, depending on the attractiveness of the chick asking for the fuck in question;)!

I said Not Me but I hate it so I guess that means I do care, so maybe "reasons"?

I voted "reasons" because there are different aspects to the OSR and not all of them get equal fucks given.

I am happy that the "movement" happened. Not for myself or any other old grog with dozens of D&D editions sitting on our shelves ready to be used at our leisure, but for younger gamers who entered the hobby at a time when classic editions were not as easy to come by.

For these folks who had only modern rpg titles available, you know in between the time when the ocean drank Atlantis( after WOTC yanked the OD&D pdfs) and the rise of the sons of Aryas ( D&D classics goodness) there was an age undreamed of. And unto this, OSR, destined to wear the jeweled crown of old school goodness upon an OGL brow.

So there for a time, new gamers in search of an old school play experience had very limited options. The OSR brought free clone systems, which in turn provided a framework for new old school adventure material. This was very awesome.

Now that the back catalog of old editions are for sale again the "movement" such as it is, isn't really needed anymore. I think it was a success in that it showed the industry that there was still a market for classic type products. Now that they are on the market again, the battle is won.

So as an ongoing movement I think its done. New great classic style products are always welcomed though.

Quote from: Exploderwizard;861238Not for myself or any other old grog with dozens of D&D editions sitting on our shelves ready to be used at our leisure, but for younger gamers who entered the hobby at a time when classic editions were not as easy to come by.

Yeah, that probably gets a 'reasons' from me too. I'm happy for those 23 gamers.

Baby Jesus gives a fuck. Why don't you think of him?

(Ooh, mango chutney!)

I think people forget that the OSR has no defining purpose other than the fact that that a bunch of people found playing, promoting, and publishing for classic editions of D&D is interesting and fun.

Really that it.

Everything stems from that. The DiY ethos because nobody was supporting classic edition commercially. The openness, kit bashing, genre mashes, and sharing because the OGL was the only practical way of getting classic D&D material out without being getting a cease and desist from Wizards. Using classic edition mechanics means many are favorable to the idea of Rulings Not Rules.

Some want it to be more. But really does it need to be anything more?

As for giving a fuck. Well do you like playing, promoting, or publishing for a classic D&D edition? If yes to any of those then yes,you give a fuck and are part of the OSR.

I voted Me!Me!

I never would have run a 1e game without OSRIC and the OSR.
I first played D&D about a year an half before 3e came out (in middle school). But I wouldn't have ever GMed an old-school game without the OSR reminding me that hey, this thing used to be a lot simpler, you'd probably enjoy that more.

Guess I'm one of those "younger" gamer's the OSR was good for.

I voted "Not Me", but that's largely because the OSR has played a key role in persuading me that, outside of some outliers (mostly from 2E and 4E), D&D and I just really don't fit that well. So in that sense, I do care a little about the OSR ... but mostly from the perspective of persuading me that it and I are best off going our separate ways.

Voted "not me," but I admit that's because I was kinda checked-out of the hobby during that small period when classic D&D editions were unavailable to the masses.

As to the concept of OSR gamers and the OSR community, no. Gamers as a whole, we are altogether too ready to divide ourselves already.

There's a lot of interesting and cool ideas associated with OSR, particularly on the blog False Machine, more than a few fun random tables on that particular blogging community I've snapped up for my own campaigns.  All the stuff that's basically internet scenester drama plus the fact I prefer 3.5 ( :u ) makes me want to keep a 10 foot pole between myself and it, even if the game settings and elements created by people like David McGrogan are actually way more in touch with my preferred playstyle by far than any WoTC product.

I said "reasons" because I treasure all of the inspirational blogs, the "DIY" philosophy and the very fun, imaginative and evocative products the movement has spawned.

On the other had, I loathe the politics and the geek faction wars going on. While I truly admire the talent and creativity of the OSR "figureheads" most of my personal interactions with them have been pretty sour. They've either given off an air of "yeah I'm a genius you aren't worthy of talking with me unless it's exactly in the way that I want" or they've come across as paranoid, narcissistic curmudgeons who take everything that I've said to them in the worst possible faith.

Way to encourage other aspiring writers you prima donnas.

'Me!Me!' for me as well.
I'd long ago written off D&D but the OSR content... the Primer and such... caught my interest and the flood of great content that followed has kept me interested. Nothing to do with 'nostalgia' because I never played those games that way... but it presented a different way of looking at D&D than I'd had lodged into my head (mostly from associating with other D&D players).

I particularly like the 'punk'/DIY aspects of it... producing material that would never have seen the light of day under 'official' auspices and kind of giving the finger to more corporate concerns... the OSR stuff feels more like a 'hobby' and I like that.