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Things Palladium Got Right

Started by David Johansen, July 06, 2014, 01:28:21 PM

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Spinachcat

Savage Rifts is a great idea. It think it will only do good for all involved.


Quote from: kobayashi;834617Whenever I read a Palladium book I want to run a campaign right away.

Absolutely. The enthusiasm in the fluff is infectious...until I look at the crunch and remind myself to strip mine the book. If I were to run Palladium Fantasy, there's no question it would be 1e. That game is truly great.


Quote from: kobayashi;834617I even stopped trying to find an alternate system, now play consist mostly of "oh yeah roll a twenty-sided die and let's see what happens" and ignoring 90% of the rules.

Agreed. This is why I run Mechanoids. I went back to the core of the system and I just tack on Rifts stuff I like. My campaign takes place in the Valhalla Nebula, a collection of cold planets with Norse gods getting whacked by Mechanoids and their giant bug allies. FOR ME, I get all the fun and none of the system headaches.

TheShadow

#136
Regarding the business side of things, I think at this point, Siembieda has "won". Even if he were to declare bankruptcy tomorrow. He's outlasted just about everyone else, and in any industry, surviving on your own fucking terms for over 30 years counts as a raised middle finger to the haters and indeed to the entropic force of the universe.

Palladium is like a manufacturer of weird non-Euclidian buggy whips which has managed to survive into the automobile age on the strength of strong coffee, love of buggy whips, and dogged insanity.
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Quote from: The_Shadow;835664Regarding the business side of things, I think at this point, Siembieda has "won". Even if he were to declare bankruptcy tomorrow. He's outlasted just about everyone else, and in any industry, surviving on your own fucking terms for over 30 years counts as a raised middle finger to the haters and indeed to the entropic force of the universe.

Palladium is like a manufacturer of weird non-Euclidian buggy whips which has managed to survive into the automobile age on the strength of strong coffee, love of buggy whips, and dogged insanity.

Well said.  He's doing something right with his company.

jeff37923

Quote from: David Johansen;765210Okay, Palladium tends to be a bit of a whipping boy but really there's a lot of things they get right.  

Alignments. Palladium got alignments to be much more understandable and useful then D&D.
"Meh."

yabaziou

Quote from: jeff37923;835669Alignments. Palladium got alignments to be much more understandable and useful then D&D.

I totally agreed on this with you ! Even if I do not understand the nuance between miscreant and diabolic, the way Paaladium hyandles makes for more sense to me than D&D's.
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Quote from: jeff37923;835669Alignments. Palladium got alignments to be much more understandable and useful then D&D.

I always found them too defined, to rigid.  YMMV.
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They are picking up Palladium Fantasy again (I have just recently bought the Bizantium book, which is bonkers, but fun), so they are good with me.
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Bloodwolf

I started with Beyond the Supernatural, then moved to Rifts and never understood why so many people had problems with the rule set.  Roll to hit, roll for defense, take damage, run out of actions, move to nest round.  The skill system was percentile, but that didn't bother me either.  It's not like the games coming out at that time had consistent rules systems. Even now there are games which have consistent, but really bad systems.

I was a big fan of Long's artwork and the Rifts setting.  I grew less in love as more setting books came out (I think I started disliking them around World Book 7, though there were a few good ones later), but the initial idea was great.

Phase World is a pretty awesome setting.

Wormwood is pretty cool.

Mechanoids trilogy is a cool idea/setting.

I think I'm one of the few people who like mega-damage.

Spinachcat

Kevin was just inducted into the Origins Hall of Fame!
http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=148470

Quote from: The_Shadow;835664Palladium is like a manufacturer of weird non-Euclidian buggy whips which has managed to survive into the automobile age on the strength of strong coffee, love of buggy whips, and dogged insanity.

So true.

Gotta love me a good buggy whip.

JamesV

Quote from: Spinachcat;836327Kevin was just inducted into the Origins Hall of Fame...

Good on him, the man's a part of the landscape. The hobby would be different without Palladium.

OTOH, Kevin, you don't need to include that blasted copyright and trademark notice as your forum signature. Lay off the IP pedal a little!
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Quote from: Spinachcat;836327Kevin was just inducted into the Origins Hall of Fame!
http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=148470

 

Awesome. He deserves it whether someone has a personal beef with him or not.

Spinachcat

#147
Matt, one does not simply have a "beef" with Kevin Siembieda.

At at minimum, one must have a laser pepperoni cybernetic meat horn stolen from an atomicpunk unicorn with Kevin Siembieda!

I don't make the rules, but we gotta follow'em!



....and I'm not actually kidding.

Palladium couldn't have a normal Kickstarter with some normal delays. Nope, the Robotech Tactics KS has become a mega-damage clulsterfuck of multidimensional epic destruction...Kevin just wrote a 17 page apology to the backers...which will probably need another 17 page apology to the apology. And here's the rub...the Robotech minis wargame is quite good.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/updates

Christopher Brady

Quote from: JamesV;836333OTOH, Kevin, you don't need to include that blasted copyright and trademark notice as your forum signature. Lay off the IP pedal a little!

At this point, and no pun intended, but it's his trademark.  It simply wouldn't be a Siembeida post if it didn't throw Rs, TMs and Cs all over the place.  It has a certain charm.
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Quote from: Spinachcat;836346Matt, one does not simply have a "beef" with Kevin Siembieda.

At at minimum, one must have a laser pepperoni cybernetic meat horn stolen from an atomicpunk unicorn with Kevin Siembieda!

I don't make the rules, but we gotta follow'em!



....and I'm not actually kidding.

Palladium couldn't have a normal Kickstarter with some normal delays. Nope, the Robotech Tactics KS has become a mega-damage clulsterfuck of multidimensional epic destruction...Kevin just wrote a 17 page apology to the backers...which will probably need another 17 page apology to the apology. And here's the rub...the Robotech minis wargame is quite good.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/updates

Okay, I stand corrected via-a-via beef.

As for Kickstarters, my opinion is anyone who still puts money into one after what we know now about them is that a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place.