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Getting players to read setting text.

Started by Aos, June 01, 2015, 11:17:23 AM

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Quote from: Bren;834785The one page is nicely executed. If I could draw, I might try something similar. But there really isn't any reason to be a dick to people who don't provide you with solely positive feedback.

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Allow me to be contrarian. I love Aos' art. The text leaves me unmoved, however. Are the players onboard with "cool! necrotic heart powered submarines!!" Because I would prefer more traditional, pseudo-historical fare. A setting where all seems to be one-liners that flitted into mind from late-night lava-lamp gazing sessions doesn't grab me. I would doubt there is a lot of depth or consistency to it, just a lot of phantasmagorical throwaways.

This is basically a taste thing, I admit.
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Quote from: The_Shadow;834983Allow me to be contrarian. I love Aos' art. The text leaves me unmoved, however. Are the players onboard with "cool! necrotic heart powered submarines!!" Because I would prefer more traditional, pseudo-historical fare. A setting where all seems to be one-liners that flitted into mind from late-night lava-lamp gazing sessions doesn't grab me. I would doubt there is a lot of depth or consistency to it, just a lot of phantasmagorical throwaways.

This is basically a taste thing, I admit.

That's fair. I assure you there is plenty of consistency, but it still comes down to taste. I'm not a fan of traditional historical based stuff, personally, but again that's just taste.
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PS. Don't get the wrong idea, though, I am totally down with lava lamps.
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Quote from: Aos;835014That's fair. I assure you there is plenty of consistency, but it still comes down to taste. I'm not a fan of traditional historical based stuff, personally, but again that's just taste.

Just so we're clear, if we sit down to play and you say "Hey guys, I scrapped all that necrotic-heart-submarine stuff. My setting is all about historic medieval fantasy now" I will probably flip the table.

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Quote from: misterguignol;835016Just so we're clear, if we sit down to play and you say "Hey guys, I scrapped all that necrotic-heart-submarine stuff. My setting is all about historic medieval fantasy now" I will probably flip the table.

I guess we know who is playing the cleric.
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Quote from: Aos;8348032/10
FWIW, I didn't see anything patronizing or superior in soltakss' post, either.

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Quote from: Pat;835026FWIW, I didn't see anything patronizing or superior in soltakss' post, either.

I found the "good luck getting your players to read all that," comment to be patronizing. I thought the idea that presenting things on a screen or a tablet somehow made them more likely to be read nonsensical.

Bren's post was also nonsensical, as I was not responding to soltkass' feedback, because I don't really see that he provided any one way or the other, his comments were focused on a hypothetical 10 page setting document, not on the one page presentation which was the topic of the thread.

My mistake was responding to soltkass in the first place.

Dead horse is now sufficiently dead, in my opinion.
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Quote from: Aos;835040Bren's post was also nonsensical, as I was not responding to soltkass' feedback, because I don't really see that he provided any one way or the other, his comments were focused on a hypothetical 10 page setting document, not on the one page presentation which was the topic of the thread.
He was responding to idea that you would provide several 1-page documents. to players rather than only 1 page ever. An inference on his part, but one adequately supported by the fact that you had already posted two 1 page documents in this very thread.

I thought you understood the inference and soltakss comment on the difference between a single 1-page document and 10 pages of documents either as a single document or as ten separate 1-pagers. That was the obvious interpretation of what soltakss wrote and of what he was responding to. Your response that you wouldn't put all ten 1-pagers out at the same time actually supports the notion that you did understand what feedback he was providing and that you just didn't find any merit in his comment.
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Quote from: CRKrueger;835065Torgo vs. The Murder Moon - I want the webcomic now!

I actually have a whole story with Torgo planned out. I am  working out some kinks in my art right now, but plan on going back to the current comic in july. Maybe when that is done.
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What I'd really like to see, Aos, is an entire retro-clone presented visually in comic book form. I'd Kickstart that.

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Quote from: The_Shadow;835134What I'd really like to see, Aos, is an entire retro-clone presented visually in comic book form. I'd Kickstart that.


That would likely kill me. It is a really cool idea, though.
I have thought about foing some for a setting book though. The OP setting is actually part of a comic idea as well.
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This is very cool stuff.  Generally, though, I don't try to get players to read setting text, but prefer to reveal setting details to them through actual play.
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The idea is more to give a sense of what is out there and build an appetite for exploration than to provide indepth setting knowledge. The bulk of setting detail would still be absorbed during play, of course.
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