Quote from: Cryptofblood;822922With the Kindred gone like I asked before, what will replace them?

Faeries. They were always better monsters anyways.

Quote from: TristramEvans;833338Considering Japanese culture is one of the most racist on the planet, I don't think they have much to complain about in regards to a 20 year old bit of Orientalism.

Is KotE poorly researched and presents an inaccurate view of Asian cultures? Sure thing. Is it responsible for human misery, denying equal rights, or racially motivated violence? Not so much.

Perspective is a wonderful thing.

An RPG isn't exactly the best material from which to craft a moral high horse to sit on.

Japan as it exists today is also a product of western imperialism if you know the history behind it and infact Japanese people actually admire white people and try to make themselves more white so this actually harms your argument since there isn't the most "racist country on earth" rather racism exists as a institutionalized power that exists everywhere in the world which is also how imperialism works as well.

I think you simply don't get it the reason why KotE/KotEK is "poorly researched" because they are written by mostly white people who contributed to a racist institutional culture so they didn't have to due to their entitlement to do anything they wanted, same thing Monte Cook was about to with the Native American section obviously.

Quote from: TristramEvans;833340Never heard of Base Mom?

Never heard of it and don't care.

Quote from: Cryptofblood;833345Never heard of it and don't care.

(shrug)  feel free to wallow in your ignorance.

Who the Hell is Blood Lore?

Quote from: TristramEvans;833346(shrug)  feel free to wallow in your ignorance.

You're now projecting yourself unto me making it look like I'm the ignorant one while reality says otherwise.

An uneducated troll, apparently.

Quote from: Cryptofblood;833350You're now projecting yourself unto me making it look like I'm the ignorant one while reality says otherwise.

Ignorance : not knowing something.
Wallowing in ignorance: taking false pride in not knowing something
You: "I don't know and don't want to know".
You: reality's bitch.

RE: oWoD

I think mining around the WoD lore the most you can do is use Ghouls. I believe there was some non canonical fusion of Werewolves & Cainite Vampires, but again I don't think it's what you're looking for.

I think they would have to be created somehow, i.e. Mutated Changelings or a Mage creation gone wrong.

Re: Gamer Gate:

I think it's dishonest to say GG'ers have had nothing to do with harassing feminist journalists etc. The problem is that the movement is an uncontrollable seven headed hydra with each head doing it's own thing.

There are guys like me, that really, at most read up on the GGer movement and agree with the corruption in the media with journalists reviewing ANY product. Trust me, in the gun community there is a saying "There's never been a gun that a gun journalist/reviewer didn't like." Or how in PC hardware reviews - pretty much every piece of PC hardware gets a positive review.

However - do I go around posting harassing comments on people's twitter feeds or stay up all night hacking websites in order to dox them? No. Do I think people should be harassed like that & receive death threats? No. Do I agree with any of their methods? No.

Acting like any GGer you encounter is a woman hater isn't winning you any points.

Quote from: Cryptofblood;833345I think you simply don't get it the reason why KotE/KotEK is "poorly researched" because they are written by mostly white people who contributed to a racist institutional culture so they didn't have to due to their entitlement to do anything they wanted, same thing Monte Cook was about to with the Native American section obviously.

What are you even trying to say?

Quote from: Nexus;833348Who the Hell is Blood Lore?

An annoying shit from Shadownessence, a OWoD fansite that went belly up.

Bloodlore is one of those eats, breathes,and shits WoD information fanatics, and doesn't know about much about anything else as you can tell with his hilariously racist "the Japanese are trying to be white' bit.

Most importantly, Bloodlore doesn't actually play any RPGs, he was strictly a collector. So all this arguing and nitpicking over setting details means absolutely nothing.

Quote from: Autumnborn;833448An annoying shit from Shadownessence, a OWoD fansite that went belly up.

Bloodlore is one of those eats, breathes,and shits WoD information fanatics, and doesn't know about much about anything else as you can tell with his hilariously racist "the Japanese are trying to be white' bit.

Most importantly, Bloodlore doesn't actually play any RPGs, he was strictly a collector. So all this arguing and nitpicking over setting details means absolutely nothing.

Thanks for the information (but I'm kinda sorry I asked. )

Quote from: Autumnborn;833448An annoying shit from Shadownessence, a OWoD fansite that went belly up.

Bloodlore is one of those eats, breathes,and shits WoD information fanatics, and doesn't know about much about anything else as you can tell with his hilariously racist "the Japanese are trying to be white' bit.

Most importantly, Bloodlore doesn't actually play any RPGs, he was strictly a collector. So all this arguing and nitpicking over setting details means absolutely nothing.

Welcome to the forum

Quote from: Autumnborn;833448An annoying shit from Shadownessence, a OWoD fansite that went belly up.

Bloodlore is one of those eats, breathes,and shits WoD information fanatics, and doesn't know about much about anything else as you can tell with his hilariously racist "the Japanese are trying to be white' bit.

Most importantly, Bloodlore doesn't actually play any RPGs, he was strictly a collector. So all this arguing and nitpicking over setting details means absolutely nothing.

Welcome to the forum!

Thanks for the welcome. I'm a long time lurker, but months of watching cryptofblood gibber on finally forced me to register.

Quote from: Autumnborn;833448An annoying shit from Shadownessence, a OWoD fansite that went belly up.

Bloodlore is one of those eats, breathes,and shits WoD information fanatics, and doesn't know about much about anything else as you can tell with his hilariously racist "the Japanese are trying to be white' bit.

Most importantly, Bloodlore doesn't actually play any RPGs, he was strictly a collector. So all this arguing and nitpicking over setting details means absolutely nothing.

He's actually been to various RPG forums on the net, including the official White Wolf forums and Big Purple. Most of his posts seem be related to using WoD games to express Marxist ideas, though hating whitey seems to be a common theme as well.