Quote from: Old Geezer;817127I'm sorry, could you explain this further?  I have no idea what you're talking about.

Jeebus what a mess.

Here goes.

Remember the D&D movie. By Courtney Solomon? The one that was and wasnt much D&D to it? Well turns out that Solomon is related to... drumroll please... Loraine Williams. And she gave him UNLIMITED EXCLUSIVE rights to make moves based on the D&D game.

This means that Hasbro and WOTC cannot make D&D movies and apparently Solomon reads that to extend to TV shows as well. Possibly further. It gets really convoluted. Somehow also Warner got some rights to D&D as well. From Solomon? I dont know.

But apparently Dragonlance SAGA was created to get out from under that as the allowance was only to D&D itself and did not extend to Dragonlance or non D&D systems. So they could make a sub-par Dragonlance cartoon with bad CHI mixed with traditional drawn animation. That one is a little dubious. But when 5e was in the works WOTC was pushing for Dragonlance for a while. So there may be credence to it.

Meanwhile Hasbro announced a whole bunch of toy and game related media under a blanket Unit-E title. Movies being GI Joe, Battleship, etc. The movies aside from GI Joe fared poorly because they had little to nothing to do with the games, and the second GI Jow movie was botched and so did poorly too. Hasbro PAYED Universal to end the movie deal contract.

Their Unit-E idea was a sort of Torg-like collission of diffrent franchises Hasborg has acquired or created. About none of which saw light. They handed Battleship Galaxies off to WOTC who promptly strangled it in its crib, theyce sat on the Micronauts/Micro-Man stuff since acquiring it. Possibly so there was no competition with Transformers. Which is hilarious as Transformers ARE Micro-man.

But as of last check Hasbro swas still being stonewalled for D&D movies.

Solomon's done 2 and 1/2 D&D moves. The last was Book of Vile Darkness which also didnt feel much like D&D at all. The middle movie by some other company that got the rights temporarily was actually not bad and had the D&D feel. Gary seemed to like it so theres that.

Quote from: Omega;817131The middle movie by some other company that got the rights temporarily was actually not bad and had the D&D feel. Gary seemed to like it so theres that.

Yeah, Wrath of the Dragon God felt like it was more of a love letter to D&D than anything using that term ever did. It was a pretty good "B" movie.

Quote from: jeff37923;817139Yeah, Wrath of the Dragon God felt like it was more of a love letter to D&D than anything using that term ever did. It was a pretty good "B" movie.

Yep. The number of appropriate D&D references were considerable and good.

Glassdoor looks like a phone site for people with instant-grat issues.

Quote from: Omega;817131Jeebus what a mess.

Here goes.

Remember the D&D movie. By Courtney Solomon? The one that was and wasnt much D&D to it? Well turns out that Solomon is related to... drumroll please... Loraine Williams. And she gave him UNLIMITED EXCLUSIVE rights to make moves based on the D&D game.

This means that Hasbro and WOTC cannot make D&D movies and apparently Solomon reads that to extend to TV shows as well. Possibly further. It gets really convoluted. Somehow also Warner got some rights to D&D as well. From Solomon? I dont know.

But apparently Dragonlance SAGA was created to get out from under that as the allowance was only to D&D itself and did not extend to Dragonlance or non D&D systems. So they could make a sub-par Dragonlance cartoon with bad CHI mixed with traditional drawn animation. That one is a little dubious. But when 5e was in the works WOTC was pushing for Dragonlance for a while. So there may be credence to it.

Meanwhile Hasbro announced a whole bunch of toy and game related media under a blanket Unit-E title. Movies being GI Joe, Battleship, etc. The movies aside from GI Joe fared poorly because they had little to nothing to do with the games, and the second GI Jow movie was botched and so did poorly too. Hasbro PAYED Universal to end the movie deal contract.

Their Unit-E idea was a sort of Torg-like collission of diffrent franchises Hasborg has acquired or created. About none of which saw light. They handed Battleship Galaxies off to WOTC who promptly strangled it in its crib, theyce sat on the Micronauts/Micro-Man stuff since acquiring it. Possibly so there was no competition with Transformers. Which is hilarious as Transformers ARE Micro-man.

But as of last check Hasbro swas still being stonewalled for D&D movies.

Solomon's done 2 and 1/2 D&D moves. The last was Book of Vile Darkness which also didnt feel much like D&D at all. The middle movie by some other company that got the rights temporarily was actually not bad and had the D&D feel. Gary seemed to like it so theres that.

* brain dribbles out of ears onto the floor and whimpers softly *

Quote from: jeff37923;816997Obviously, we have to dumb down tabletop RPGs to the point where Liberal Arts students can understand them in order to become profitable again....

I thought that was 4E.

JG

Quote from: Omega;817131Jeebus what a mess.

Here goes.

Remember the D&D movie. By Courtney Solomon? The one that was and wasnt much D&D to it? Well turns out that Solomon is related to... drumroll please... Loraine Williams. And she gave him UNLIMITED EXCLUSIVE rights to make moves based on the D&D game.

This means that Hasbro and WOTC cannot make D&D movies and apparently Solomon reads that to extend to TV shows as well. Possibly further. It gets really convoluted. Somehow also Warner got some rights to D&D as well. From Solomon? I dont know.

But apparently Dragonlance SAGA was created to get out from under that as the allowance was only to D&D itself and did not extend to Dragonlance or non D&D systems. So they could make a sub-par Dragonlance cartoon with bad CHI mixed with traditional drawn animation. That one is a little dubious. But when 5e was in the works WOTC was pushing for Dragonlance for a while. So there may be credence to it.

Meanwhile Hasbro announced a whole bunch of toy and game related media under a blanket Unit-E title. Movies being GI Joe, Battleship, etc. The movies aside from GI Joe fared poorly because they had little to nothing to do with the games, and the second GI Jow movie was botched and so did poorly too. Hasbro PAYED Universal to end the movie deal contract.

Their Unit-E idea was a sort of Torg-like collission of diffrent franchises Hasborg has acquired or created. About none of which saw light. They handed Battleship Galaxies off to WOTC who promptly strangled it in its crib, theyce sat on the Micronauts/Micro-Man stuff since acquiring it. Possibly so there was no competition with Transformers. Which is hilarious as Transformers ARE Micro-man.

But as of last check Hasbro swas still being stonewalled for D&D movies.

Solomon's done 2 and 1/2 D&D moves. The last was Book of Vile Darkness which also didnt feel much like D&D at all. The middle movie by some other company that got the rights temporarily was actually not bad and had the D&D feel. Gary seemed to like it so theres that.

Lorraine Williams... the gift that keeps on giving.

JG

It is a good thing that no DnD movies are on the horizon, they would only cheapen the brand.  Were one to be made, it would be just one more lame fantasy movie like hordes of others that we already have.

The DnD movie that needs to be made will not be regardess of who owns the rights.  It should be pure DnD dungeon crawl without any care for plot.  It should be a party of 4-5 main characters with 4-5 retainers going through tunnels and caves, figuring their way past traps and monsters in their quest for sweet loot.  Action scenes and special effects being important, not plot and character development.  And they should all die in the dungeon ending in TPK and end with the question of who next is brave enough to enter.

A DnD movie should showcase the dungeon as the main 'character' and the only plot to explore it for the loot.  And that movie will never be made.

Quote from: Old One Eye;817392It is a good thing that no DnD movies are on the horizon, they would only cheapen the brand.  Were one to be made, it would be just one more lame fantasy movie like hordes of others that we already have.

The DnD movie that needs to be made will not be regardess of who owns the rights.  It should be pure DnD dungeon crawl without any care for plot.  It should be a party of 4-5 main characters with 4-5 retainers going through tunnels and caves, figuring their way past traps and monsters in their quest for sweet loot.  Action scenes and special effects being important, not plot and character development.  And they should all die in the dungeon ending in TPK and end with the question of who next is brave enough to enter.

A DnD movie should showcase the dungeon as the main 'character' and the only plot to explore it for the loot.  And that movie will never be made.

That sounds like a terrible movie.

Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;817395That sounds like a terrible movie.

You would be correct. What makes for good gaming makes for a terrible film, movie, comic, or novel.

I think it's possible to make a movie like that work.
I just wouldn't bet much on the likelihood.

I mean, hell, if you squint, the recent movie, Dredd, sort of qualifies.

Quote from: jeff37923;816997Obviously, we have to dumb down tabletop RPGs to the point where Liberal Arts students can understand them in order to become profitable again....

If you really want to bring in the lowest common denominator, I suggest targeting extreme right wing conservatives (shouldn't be hard, as there is plenty of war and religion already in the game).

Quote from: Will;817025Of course, I have no idea what the base cost of airing commercials is... anyone have a clue? (Since that's the hard limit)

According to this article from Adweek, the cost of a single 30-second spot on a national U.S. broadcast network cost $110,000 in 2011. That's one spot, run once, during one show, and the vast majority of people would never see it. To be effective, it would need to run repeatedly and often over an extended period. It would very quickly cost more to advertise D&D than it makes for Hasbro.

Fair point, I will reverse my grump.

Quote from: cranebump;817487If you really want to bring in the lowest common denominator, I suggest targeting extreme right wing conservatives (shouldn't be hard, as there is plenty of war and religion already in the game).

This site is more interesting to read when morons don't bring in their personal political biases.