It is my opinion that your opinion is wrong.

Untangle that one, Socrates!

Ned

Quote from: WerekoalaThere's no way that's true, because THESE days, the sense of entitlement, the glorification of violence and misogyny, the utter lack of respect or fear of consequences in young adults, much less kids - this thing is far wors that is was back in the day, and destined to get worse, IMHO.

No, there was just the blatent racism, sexism and homophobia.  And deaths/disability due to diseases that are now part of history in developed countries

Here's an interesting piece of research for you to do.  When in your jurisdiction did it became illegal to rape your wife?

Huh? It can't be illegal to rape your wife any more than it's illegal to send a police officer to a crime scene. It's all duty.

Right?

-- If my wife reads this I may need someone to call the spousal abuse hotline for me.

Quote from: Hastur T. FannonNo, there was just the blatent racism, sexism and homophobia.  And deaths/disability due to diseases that are now part of history in developed countries

Here's an interesting piece of research for you to do.  When in your jurisdiction did it became illegal to rape your wife?

How far back did you think I was talking about? I was referring to the 1980's when I was in school (which is what we're TALKING about, not society in general).

Here's a piece of research for YOU: When did you become such a knee-jerking reactionary who has to take what someone says regarding a specific, turn it into a general, and then attack their point of view because you think they were talking about something totally different than was the topic?

Jesus, we ARE talking about a teacher getting attached by students over an iPod, right? And the general increase in such things in school and regarding school-aged kids? Or did I reply in the wrong thread?

The first time through I missed that they'd broken their neck. To me that screams being tried as an adult for attempted murder. It probably wouldn't stick, but the prospect of 30 years in prison might sober the punks up.

Quote from: James McMurrayThe first time through I missed that they'd broken their neck. To me that screams being tried as an adult for attempted murder. It probably wouldn't stick, but the prospect of 30 years in prison might sober the punks up.

I've been ... perplexed ... by that little quote.  I wonder if they got it entirely right.

My understanding is that the amount of force required to actually break a vertebra is ludicrous.  The odds of doing it twice in a shoving-and-falling situation, without severing the spinal column (unless I'm totally missing something) are vanishngly small.

Now this is from a martial arts point of view, so maybe there are some trauma specialists out there who will quickly set me straight, and tell me that breaking the bones in the neck is much easier than I'm imagining.  I'd be glad to know more.

But given what I know today, I'm sorely tempted to think that the guy broke his clavicle ... quite possibly on both sides, from being shoved hard into lockers.  That'd still put him in a pretty severe looking neck restraint (to keep him from moving his head and shoulders) and has the advantage of being an extremely likely injury from certain kinds of tussles (the mid-span clavicle being the worst ratio of bone-density to lever arm in the entire body).

If the paper got it right then I'm all like "Bwuh?  You broke two high vertabrae and didn't get paralyzed?  Man, you better start tithing awful quick, because your guardian angel deserves a whopping big tip for that kind of service."

Quote from: Blue DevilI have to say I agree that its the parents fault.

Also, I am glad you guys are being more mature, I posted this same topic on rpg.net and the idiots are already calling me a troll.

God, I am begining to hate that place.

 Beginning to ?
 I've already been in that mood for months now about rpg.net.


- E.W.C.

Quote from: WerekoalaOpinions can't be wrong, that's why they're not called facts.

Of course opinions can be wrong. Don't say dumb shit like that. What you want to say is something along the lines of "In matters of taste there can be no dispute", which is where the idea you just put forth comes from. But since this isn't a matter of taste, it's also completely irrelevant.

QuoteBut thanks for trying to set me straight. I didn't try to correct your opinion, evn though I felt you were wrong, I merely put in my .02Cr. But I guess some people are just compelled to be right. That being the case, we are left to assume you did not express an opinion, but a fact.

No, I expressed an opinion. Opinions are a kind of evaluation of facts. They can be correct and incorrect, just as facts can be.

QuoteSo, Mr. P - where is your research and data backing up your assertion that things aren't worse than they used to be, back in the good old days?

All over the place. Crime by youths is down, illegal drug use is down, unplanned teen pregnancy is down, child abuse is down, and child poverty is down over the past 25 years, if not longer in several cases (teen pregnancy has been declining since the 1950's, for example). Those are pretty good indicators that today's kids are better behaved than their parents were. What, other than silly reflections on the virtue of your own childhood, do you have to offer as counter-evidence?

QuoteHere's a piece of research for YOU: When did you become such a knee-jerking reactionary who has to take what someone says regarding a specific, turn it into a general, and then attack their point of view because you think they were talking about something totally different than was the topic?

You fucking sophist. You were the one who started talking about kids today. Stop sniveling and either defend or retract your statements.

Quote from: PseudoephedrineYou fucking sophist. You were the one who started talking about kids today. Stop sniveling and either defend or retract your statements.

Hey, you know what? You were absolutely right. I looked it up and violence in schools and such has been declining - at least up to 2001 which is the most recent I could find. The public perception on this, like many other things, is skewed by media as usual.

As an aside, I'm sure Hastur was glad to see you leap to his defense - very noble of you.

And hey, just because you're an immature cocksucker who can't back up their position without calling people a "fucking sophist" - you know, like by linking to information supporting YOUR point of view instead of just arguing from authority - is no reason to dispute the facts. Why, I'm sure you've swayed many people with your mature dialogs.

Quote from: PseudoephedrineWhat, other than silly reflections on the virtue of your own childhood, do you have to offer as counter-evidence?

This would have been a very good point, had you actually provided any evidence aside from your own say-so that YOU were right. Yes, you were, but you provided nothing to back it up. You're just lucky I took you seriously enough to actually do some research, because the Lord knows YOU didn't provide any. If you HAD, then none of this would've been necessary, now would it? But you probably like it this way.  

Now, anyone care to show me how an IL works?

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 I've already been in that mood for months now about rpg.net.


- E.W.C.

I guess I have a higher tollerance to bullshit.  Least the mod came in and shut the fucker up who was threadcrapping saying the thread was a trap.

Some boards have lower 'disagreement thresholds' than others. This board is willing to accept a wide range of opinion, without accusations of trolling, or of deliberate provocation. Whether this is indicative of a more tolerant group of people, or simply of a smaller board which hasn't completely established it's 'tone' yet, is a question I'm not wise enough to answer.

Quote from: WerekoalaNow, anyone care to show me how an IL works?

Click on their name by a post and then click on ignore.

Quote from: James McMurrayClick on their name by a post and then click on ignore.

Hummmm. Has a "buddylist" option, but not an "ignore" one. Ah well, thanks anyway.

Quote from: WerekoalaHummmm. Has a "buddylist" option, but not an "ignore" one. Ah well, thanks anyway.

You have to go to the user's Profile, first. The IL option is there.

Excellent, thanks.