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[5e] Umber Hulk preview

Started by Sacrosanct, August 13, 2014, 05:38:40 PM

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Sacrosanct

August 13, 2014, 05:38:40 PM
Always had a soft spot for these guys.  However, unlike the more modern look of them, I like the bulky 1e version.  In fact, here is the 5e version, and the second image is an illio I had recently commissioned for Felk Mor.



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jadrax

#1
August 13, 2014, 05:55:28 PM
That will teach you to dump Cha.

Saplatt

#2
August 13, 2014, 05:56:21 PM
Yeah, in this case I like the older art better. This just doesn't scream out "hulk" to me.

Good news is that people using CHA as a "dump stat" may need to think twice.

As the spells and monsters emerge, I'm seeing a greater spread of ability based saves, which is just fine with me.

tenbones

#3
August 13, 2014, 06:00:35 PM
Quote from: jadrax;779332That will teach you to dump Cha.


No shit! I just used Umberhulks (well their tunnels and the remains of the people they killed) in my last session. I loves me some Umberhulks. so this is perfect.

Gold Roger

#4
August 13, 2014, 07:31:36 PM
I love these guys. They utterly tore me apart the first time I played Baldurs Gate 2.

A DC 15 save every turn for every character that doesn't want to fight blind is quite nasty. With the ability to surprise attack from solid rock, it gets even harder.  Bet they will account for a few TPKs in 5E.

I approve.

Amusingly, abilities that force a mental save should work quite well on Umber Hulks.

Mr. Kent

#5
August 13, 2014, 07:57:09 PM
I love the new art for the umber hulk! The old art was fine, but those little eyes make it look Muppety. Also, yaya for CHA saves.
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#6
August 13, 2014, 08:21:54 PM
I dig the new art for this fellow.
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#7
August 13, 2014, 09:53:12 PM
I am in the "Dont like the new bug look" for then or the Rust monster and hook horror. And I like bug monsters. I just think these changes were needless.

Its like putting legs on a beholder...

Marleycat

#8
August 13, 2014, 10:38:45 PM
The look is weird but okay and makes sense in a weird way but I do prefer 2/3e's bulkier look.
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#9
August 13, 2014, 10:54:40 PM
Hate the new look. Always did like the monster.
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BarefootGaijin

#10
August 14, 2014, 12:20:34 AM
That actually looks kind of scary!
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#11
August 14, 2014, 07:06:52 AM
That memory-affecting effect is really cool. I had never really looked at this creature's stats before (to me it just looked like any other brute monster): did it always have this interesting encounter ability? I like it! I'll use that specifically as an example to players on how each ability score will be important...

Bill

#12
August 14, 2014, 08:24:02 AM
Umber Hulk fanboy here. I use them a lot, especially in dark sun, drow, spelljammer campaigns. Neogi need their Umberhulk muscle.

One of the best adventures ever involved level 1 characters in 1E battling kobolds in a cavern and discovering the kobolds God was an umberhulk.
the characters had to pull rabbits out of their hat to defeat the Umber hulk.
Miraculously, no character was actually killed.


Anyway, here is what I don't like about the 5E umberhulk.

Strength should be much higher. It claws through solid rock.
Damage it inflicts should be much higher.

Nothing I can't tweak though.

Exploderwizard

#13
August 14, 2014, 10:07:46 AM
I prefer the older art but the new image isn't bad by any means.

I'm just happy that confusion is actually confusing again and not extreme short duration mind control.
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#14
August 14, 2014, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;779527I prefer the older art but the new image isn't bad by any means.

I'm just happy that confusion is actually confusing again and not extreme short duration mind control.

huh?
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