[5e] Races revealed from PHB

Warboss Squee · July 11, 2014, 06:19:15 PM

I didn't have any interest in 5E over much, but since Basic is free decided to take a look. The races look really good, Dwarves especially. Bit of a shame Warforged are not in the PH, but understandable since they are very Eberron specific.

As far as Dragonborn and Teiflings, if someone wanted a half dragon or demon, I would point them to these and tell me what their characters looked like.

James Gillen · July 12, 2014, 03:31:06 AM

It looks like this is an edition I might actually get my group into.

JG

Omega · July 12, 2014, 06:53:33 AM

Quote from: Haffrung;767883You know what I don't like about Tielflings? The name 'Tieflings'. They sound like teenaged thieves, or a gang of prank-playing Halflings. There's nothing at all resonant of devils or infernal heritage in the word. It's like calling a playable half-troll race 'Kikidoos'.

When I first read the name Tiefling I thought theyd be some sort of piranha people...

crkrueger · July 12, 2014, 11:34:09 AM

The name is originally Planescape slang. Teufel is devil in German, so probably Teufelling which was bastardized to Tiefling in Planescape cant.

"Lame-ass hipster wannabe Cambions" was too long I guess.

The thing I don't like about them is standardization, they should have randomly determined special traits.

The Thaumaturgy thing? Seriously? Sounds almost like WotC is trolling their own game. Tieflings are so cool wherever they go they get a slowmo entrance with a John Woo cloak wind. Next up, Transforming Warforged.

LibraryLass · July 12, 2014, 02:15:51 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;768097The name is originally Planescape slang. Teufel is devil in German, so probably Teufelling which was bastardized to Tiefling in Planescape cant.

"Lame-ass hipster wannabe Cambions" was too long I guess.

The thing I don't like about them is standardization, they should have randomly determined special traits.

The Thaumaturgy thing? Seriously? Sounds almost like WotC is trolling their own game. Tieflings are so cool wherever they go they get a slowmo entrance with a John Woo cloak wind. Next up, Transforming Warforged.

Considering 4e/5e tieflings are assumed to be descended from pacts/intermarriage with devils, who are rigidly lawful, it sort of makes sense that they would tend to be standardized. Random traits seem more appropriate for the inherently chaotic demon-descended types.

crkrueger · July 12, 2014, 02:27:50 PM

The devils don't really look much like each other. If Tieflings were Lawfully inspired genetically, then they'd have looks according more to types of devils involved so you could spot the Type in the woodpile.

There's no real defined thought behind it, just something cool to tickle one's special snowflakes, which is fine I guess, but mind-numbingly banal.

Omega · July 12, 2014, 02:29:54 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;768097The name is originally Planescape slang. Teufel is devil in German, so probably Teufelling which was bastardized to Tiefling in Planescape cant.

"Lame-ass hipster wannabe Cambions" was too long I guess.

The thing I don't like about them is standardization, they should have randomly determined special traits.

The Thaumaturgy thing? Seriously? Sounds almost like WotC is trolling their own game. Tieflings are so cool wherever they go they get a slowmo entrance with a John Woo cloak wind. Next up, Transforming Warforged.

Well considering that at one point they were effectively no longer the offspring of demons but instead just angsty cursed people or descended from some pairing so long ago its irrelevant...

Look at the permutations Dragonborn have gone through, including a name change.

As for Warforged...
They will be renamed Warformers: Golems in Disguise.

LibraryLass · July 12, 2014, 02:40:26 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;768132The devils don't really look much like each other. If Tieflings were Lawfully inspired genetically, then they'd have looks according more to types of devils involved so you could spot the Type in the woodpile.

There's no real defined thought behind it, just something cool to tickle one's special snowflakes, which is fine I guess, but mind-numbingly banal.

Hamatulas, Osyluths, Lemures, and Gelugons don't, I guess, but the rest, including most of the archdevils, tend to follow a general template. As do the succubi, who in 4e at least were switched over to being devils.

crkrueger · July 12, 2014, 02:47:22 PM

Quote from: LibraryLass;768143the succubi, who in 4e at least were switched over to being devils.

Christ, how fucking pathetic. Poor Orcus.

LibraryLass · July 12, 2014, 03:05:27 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;768146Christ, how fucking pathetic. Poor Orcus.

I dunno, I think it makes sense. Devils tend to be portrayed as tempters, whereas demons tend to be destroyers. Succubi stand apart as the one kind of demon that normally operates as a tempter.

I think one of the ideas they were tossing around during 5e's development was that Succubi might become a neutral evil force that could be found in the company of both. I hope that's what they ended up going with, I like it a lot.

Sacrosanct · July 12, 2014, 03:49:05 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;768146Christ, how fucking pathetic. Poor Orcus.
*snip image*

The most offensive thing about that illio is that Orcus has the biggest tits of the group

Blacky the Blackball · July 12, 2014, 04:33:19 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;768097The name is originally Planescape slang. Teufel is devil in German, so probably Teufelling which was bastardized to Tiefling in Planescape cant.

It's simpler than that. "Tief" is German for "deep" (it's from the same root as Teufel).

Tiefling = "Deepling"

James Gillen · July 12, 2014, 04:34:31 PM

Quote from: Sacrosanct;768173The most offensive thing about that illio is that Orcus has the biggest tits of the group

He really let himself go.

jg

Haffrung · July 12, 2014, 07:28:03 PM

Quote from: CRKrueger;768146Christ, how fucking pathetic. Poor Orcus.

Where is that illustration from?

Necrozius · July 12, 2014, 07:52:04 PM

Were Incubi ever included in DnD? I dont't think that they're in 3e or 4e.