Quote from: Marleycat;754660I think it's hilarious what he said about 3e in 2007. My have times and expectations changed in 15 years.

What did he say?

Quote from: Raven;754693What did he say?

I went deeper into the site and read an article he said got his blog noticed something about matching your expectations about high level play circa 2007 in relation to him play testing 3.0 since 1999 and possibly consulting but that latter isn't clear. Anyway it was a breakdown of how awesome 3.0 was and balanced etc.

Quote from: trechriron;754688Exactly. How ironic. You don't think this applies to a bunch of people decrying WOTC's approach?

I think you misread the quote... or something.

Quote from: Simlasa;754788I think you misread the quote... or something.

No he didn't, Windjammer has a hate-on for Pundit something fierce and it's  long standing and would be banned for that post at any RPG site beyond here. He's just good with passive aggressive bullshit. I keep waiting for him to grow a set and actually do something directly, it might be entertaining at least.

I mean we are talking about Justin Alexander here, come on he isn't an authority anymore then anyone else. He's just as vitriolic as Pundit. At least Pundit is entertaining when he goes full metal jacket much like Benoist. They aren't full of themselves just a bit passionate.

Trechriron is being purposely hyperbolic for effect and humor (he's trolling you and everybody else because it's just so easy). It's just how it works here.

Basically this place is like Adult Swim or the Wild West and you have to know what's bullshit or real on your own without a moderator telling you which is which.

Quote from: Marleycat;754790Basically this place is like Adult Swim or the Wild West and you have to know what's bullshit or real on your own without a moderator telling you which is which.

And thank goodness for that.

On the subject of hilarious old opinions preserved in amber on the internet, this 1998 review of Alternity by James Maliszewski (the Grognardia and former "OSR pope" guy) is quite revealing:

http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/classic/rev_943.phtml

Here are some prime quotes from it:

QuoteHaving done this much, players must choose a "profession," which is Alternity-speak for a (ominous music, please) character class... I imagine that a lot of people will react in horror at the rather retrograde notion of using character classes; I know that I did... The problem with this, however, is that many more experienced gamers might be unwilling to give Alternity a fair hearing because of its use what appear at first glance to be character classes. TSR may well have made the wide acceptance of Alternity more difficult as a result.

QuoteAgain, Alternity inexplicably employs the rather reactionary concept of "levels." Like the notion of professions, I see little reason why this was included in the game.

Just for the record, I actually learned a lot of interesting and useful things from James' blog. I just found is passive-aggressive zeal for the "one true way" of OSR a bit much.

Quote from: Marleycat;754523You are so entertaining in a 12 year old kind of way. Kind of disappointed you're smack is on that level also. If you're going to talk the talk at least interest me bitch and start walking the walk. Dance monkey dance!!!

Ewww good comeback...NOT!

Quote from: Shipyard Locked;754801And thank goodness for that.

On the subject of hilarious old opinions preserved in amber on the internet, this 1998 review of Alternity by James Maliszewski (the Grognardia and former "OSR pope" guy) is quite revealing:

http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/classic/rev_943.phtml

Here are some prime quotes from it:





Just for the record, I actually learned a lot of interesting and useful things from James' blog. I just found is passive-aggressive zeal for the "one true way" of OSR a bit much.

It just tells you that it's always better to be even tempered but on the internet if you do that you'll be ignored more often then not if you do that. So sometimes people make absolute statements just as an attention grabber.

Quote from: flyingcircus;754423AD&D 1e (BTW, I bought all at once . . .

That makes you a late adopter.

Quote from: Black Vulmea;754860That makes you a late adopter.

Or an at complete release adopter, if you bought all 3 in 79 ( with those that got the books as they were released being early adopters- glass half full and all that)

I was an actual late adopter. Was still playing with my B/X stuff until I got a huge stack of AD&D stuff in 83.

Quote from: Exploderwizard;754862Or an at complete release adopter, if you bought all 3 in 79 ( with those that got the books as they were released being early adopters- glass half full and all that)

I was an actual late adopter. Was still playing with my B/X stuff until I got a huge stack of AD&D stuff in 83.

Got the MM in 78 and was using it with the white bookset. Didn't see the DMG in our favorite local hybrid comic book store/rpg shop until 1980 though.

Quote from: GameDaddy;754907Got the MM in 78 and was using it with the white bookset. Didn't see the DMG in our favorite local hybrid comic book store/rpg shop until 1980 though.

LOL, I was the next generation after you, we had a whole Players Handbook to work with, but still no ... DMG .... yet...

(we used xerox copies of the saving throw and xp chart pages from Men & Magic, to supplement the Holmes Basic set). 10 cents a page. I don't even know what set they came from, they were probably copies of copies of copies, of copies.

What I want to know is: since Mearls flattered Pundit's ego by bringing him into the design process for this thing, is this going to become the D&D5e forum?

Because, fuck, I hope not.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;755015What I want to know is: since Mearls flattered Pundit's ego by bringing him into the design process for this thing, is this going to become the D&D5e forum?

Because, fuck, I hope not.

Just because its the new big release several message boards may become 5E fixated forums for a while, at least until all the hoopla dies down a bit. Once the new shiny has worn off it will become just another edition to use as nerdfight fodder just like all the others.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;755015What I want to know is: since Mearls flattered Pundit's ego by bringing him into the design process for this thing, is this going to become the D&D5e forum?

Because, fuck, I hope not.

Yeah, how shitty would it be if this became a forum for people to talk about the most popular RPG in the hobby? Better it stay a particularly snarky offshoot of the OSR.

Quote from: Haffrung;755033Yeah, how shitty would it be if this became a forum for people to talk about the most popular RPG in the hobby?

Isn't that the Paizo forums?