... I'm sorry, I saw we were posting funny pictures now and I wanted to get in on the fun.

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... I'm sorry, I saw we were posting funny pictures now and I wanted to get in on the fun.

It's probably a more constructive use of the bandwidth going into this thread, frankly.

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You are so entertaining in a 12 year old kind of way. Kind of disappointed you're smack is on that level also. If you're going to talk the talk at least interest me bitch and start walking the walk. Dance monkey dance!!!

Quote from: Gabriel2;754512I could have sworn that the three core 3e products all came out at once, but I don't remember and am not going to bother researching it.

I do recall that the core 2e products came out at one month intervals over the summer of 1989.  That was pretty convenient for me at the time because I was a jobless teen.  It gave me a month to scrape together the $20+ tax for each product.  (Well, really $20, $18, and $20)

That said, in the short term I think it's pretty stupid to release a new product in three parts over a span of time in this day and age.  If I were to buy the game, I certainly wouldn't bother wasting my time on it until all three corebooks are out.

3.0 was in 1 month intervals 3.5 was like 4e at the same time. Ordinarily I would agree with you except WotC is using the internet and the traditional in conjunction.

Quote from: Marleycat;7545253.5 was like 4e at the same time.

That's probably what I'm dimly recalling then.

Quote from: Gabriel2;754529That's probably what I'm dimly recalling then.

Meh, like it's that important anyway.

Why are there still complaints on this forum?

Our very own RPGPundit, the Savior of D&D, has spoken and how dare any of you continue to dribble on with your blatherings. The box without chargen is NOT crippleware and the PDF with 1/5th the game is going to save the hobby. Goalposts, you say? What goalposts? Our Savior, when not saving D&D, also took the time to slay all the goalposts.

But as for the staggered release, I don't blame them. They want to sell Starter Boxes.

That said, I think WotC is losing money by not selling the Basic PDF (don't call it a quickstart) in dead tree, at least via POD.

Quote from: Spinachcat;754584Why are there still complaints on this forum?

Our very own RPGPundit, the Savior of D&D, has spoken and how dare any of you continue to dribble on with your blatherings. The box without chargen is NOT crippleware and the PDF with 1/5th the game is going to save the hobby. Goalposts, you say? What goalposts? Our Savior, when not saving D&D, also took the time to slay all the goalposts.

But as for the staggered release, I don't blame them. They want to sell Starter Boxes.

That said, I think WotC is losing money by not selling the Basic PDF (don't call it a quickstart) in dead tree, at least via POD.

You mad bro?

Quote from: Marleycat;754586You mad bro?

About what? I've already eaten my plate of makeup. I'm fucking beautiful on the inside now. My kidneys are porn star fuckable. You better start chewing on yours to catch up with me.

But let's play a game of let's pretend...appropriate for this site.

Just imagine if this level of "marketing genius" was done by White Wolf and what RPGPundit's response would have been. Or even if it was done by WotC, but without his consulting gig?

Somehow, I doubt we'd be hearing the same Kumbaya for a starter set without chargen and PDF quickstart.

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Quote from: Spinachcat;754592About what? I've already eaten my plate of makeup. I'm fucking beautiful on the inside now. My kidneys are porn star fuckable. You better start chewing on yours to catch up with me.

But let's play a game of let's pretend...appropriate for this site.

Just imagine if this level of "marketing genius" was done by White Wolf and what RPGPundit's response would have been. Or even if it was done by WotC, but without his consulting gig?

Somehow, I doubt we'd be hearing the same Kumbaya for a starter set without chargen and PDF quickstart.

He already said they did everything ass backwards and he's 100% correct. Next?

Please stop posting pictures in lieu of content. Pundit no likey.

Quote from: Spinachcat;754592But let's play a game of let's pretend...appropriate for this site.

Just imagine if this level of "marketing genius" was done by White Wolf and what RPGPundit's response would have been. Or even if it was done by WotC, but without his consulting gig?

That's indeed the hundred dollar question. Very well put.

In terms of originality, it also hurts the cause if someone else put out a better articulated version of your 'vision for D&D' before you, and then claim it as your own. (See also here.) And in contrast to Pundit, Justin Alexander has recordable evidence that his input shaped an edition of D&D.

I think it's hilarious what he said about 3e in 2007. My have times and expectations changed in 15 years.

Quote from: Windjammer;754659That's indeed the hundred dollar question. Very well put.

Yup.
This quote I saw elsewhere today seems apropo
"For fear of becoming dinosaurs we are turned into sheep."

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Somehow, I doubt we'd be hearing the same Kumbaya for a starter set without chargen and PDF quickstart.

Pointless conjecture. If the Pundit hurts your butt so bad seek medical help or counseling. We don't give a fuck. Many of us have chimed in with our thoughts and positive kudos to WOTC on the approach. If you don't like Pundit, ignore him. What about the rest of the discussion? That goes to your boyfriend Windfucker or whatever he calls himself.

Quote from: Simlasa;754668Yup.
This quote I saw elsewhere today seems apropo
"For fear of becoming dinosaurs we are turned into sheep."

Exactly. How ironic. You don't think this applies to a bunch of people decrying WOTC's approach? Lamenting the lack of character creation in the Starter Set? Sharing pointless anecdotes about the "blissful past" and "remember that perfect boxed-set?" and "but that's it's always been done!" WOTC's plan is a brave one. They are not being sheep, doing the same old thing over and over again. They are taking a chance and trying to match modern expectations with the game. The Sheep are bitching about the plan. The Dinosaurs are extinct. WOTC has quietly evolved and flew out of the valley.

Just wave goodbye dudes and nibble on the dog-eared copies of your red-box books. Bahhhhhhh.