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How Many are Non-Gamers?

Started by RPGPundit, May 12, 2014, 12:40:37 AM

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Warthur

Quote from: Ladybird;748879I wouldn't call myself a gamer, though, both because I have issues with labels and groupings, and because I don't want to associate myself with the nerdrage that sometimes spills out of it; the "gamer" stereotype is incredibly toxic (And I've seen some shit, hanging around video game forums), and I just want no part of that.
Yeah, I'd like to think that I am more than the sum of my hobbies so I don't call myself a gamer either.
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Panjumanju

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;749732So if you can't get laid you're not gay anymore?

You're a gamer if you game or want to.

But it's fair to ask how many of us are actually getting laid. Er, I mean, actually gaming.

Roleplaying games are a *hobby*, not a lifestyle, and not a gender orientation. This analysis is like exercising. Are you exercising frequently? "Well, I last exercised two months ago - but I'm totally exercising, yeah." No.

It does not matter how badly you want to, if you haven't gamed in a month (which is a generous time) then you're not a gamer right now. You could well get back into it later, but it's clearly not a top priority for you if a month is lapsing.

//Panjumanju
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Mistwell

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We had a great session last night.  No combat, just a lot of puzzle solving and role playing concerning how to kill something that at first glance seems unkillable.  Players had a great time, and they were very inventive.  Caught me off guard most of the time, but like all good sessions the rolling with the unexpected worked out for the better each time.

And the truth is I hadn't thought through how to kill the thing they're after myself - the player discussion is what gave me the ideas necessary to firm up how this thing works.

Exploderwizard

Quote from: David Johansen;749753It's the whole "bitter non-gamers" crap that infests this place like social justice wank on that purple place.  Really I think "bitter" is the key issue rather than how often one plays.  I'm playing very frequently and hating it lately.  Makes me crabby.

Why oh why are you voluntarily doing something so frequently that you hate?

No gaming is better than bad gaming.
Quote from: JonWakeGamers, as a whole, are much like primitive cavemen when confronted with a new game. Rather than \'oh, neat, what\'s this do?\', the reaction is to decide if it\'s a sex hole, then hit it with a rock.

Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

Obeeron

I play roughly twice a week.  Right now I'm running a Pulp game (shifting from Hero to Supers!), and playing in a Superhero game (already shifted from Hero to Supers!).  We generally play about 75% of the time, depending on time of year.

I can't remember the last time I had a significant "gaming gap".  Pretty sure I've gamed at least once a month for the past ... 25 years or so.

Gabriel2

I'd like to add something to this topic.

How long since you last gamed as a GM?

How long since you last gamed as a player?

Three weeks ago I gamed on the player side of the screen.  For the past two weekends I've gamed on the GM side of the screen.
 

languagegeek

Quote from: Gabriel2;749823I'd like to add something to this topic.

I'd say it averages out two sessions per week. I GM about half the time. Play the other half.

DKChannelBoredom

I'm going through a new-kid+buying-a-house rpg-drought. Hopefully I will get back to  some steady bi-weekly campaigning in August or there about.
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ggroy

#83
Quote from: Gabriel2;749823How long since you last gamed as a GM?

These days I absolutely refuse to DM anything longer than a one-shot evening game.

I got sick and tired of being the unofficial "babysitter in chief" of a bunch of flakey 30+ year old gamers.

Ladybird

Perhaps "Time since last game:" could be added to our little info-blurb next to each of our posts, such that our opinions could be weighted based on the last time we played a game. Perhaps our posts could gradually fade away after, say, a month from our last session.

Quote from: Panjumanju;749801You could well get back into it later, but it's clearly not a top priority for you if a month is lapsing.

Grow up. It is just a hobby, we're all adults here, and we all have adult responsibilities that sometimes have to take precedence over our hobbies. Would we like to game more? I'm sure some of us would. Is that always possible? No, the world doesn't stop because you really want to investigate the Caves of Hugh Givesafuck.

I'd think much worse of someone that blew off their real life for a game, than someone who dropped out of a game due to their real life.
one two FUCK YOU

Panjumanju

Quote from: Ladybird;749859Grow up. It is just a hobby, we're all adults here, and we all have adult responsibilities that sometimes have to take precedence over our hobbies. Would we like to game more? I'm sure some of us would. Is that always possible? No, the world doesn't stop because you really want to investigate the Caves of Hugh Givesafuck.

I don't understand why you're getting personal. You're making the assumption that I'm arguing that a regular gaming schedule is somehow a superiour lifestyle. It's obviously not. There are always other, superiour, priorities in life. This isn't a qualitative judgement - people who are playing regularly are not better or wiser than people who are not.

But if you have not played a roleplaying game in a month, you are not playing regularly. This is a participatory medium. Your daydreams and intentions to game do not count.

If you haven't jogged in a month, you are not jogging regularly. You can't call yourself a jogger. If you haven't painted in a month, you're not painting regularly. You're not a painter. This is not an issue of maturity, it's word definition.

//Panjumanju
"What strength!! But don't forget there are many guys like you all over the world."
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flyerfan1991

It's been over a month since our last RPG session, but I have been doing plenty of board and card gaming in the interim.

Actually, we're supposed to play this Sunday, so the drought will finally end.

Ladybird

Quote from: Panjumanju;749890I don't understand why you're getting personal. You're making the assumption that I'm arguing that a regular gaming schedule is somehow a superiour lifestyle. It's obviously not. There are always other, superiour, priorities in life. This isn't a qualitative judgement - people who are playing regularly are not better or wiser than people who are not.

But if you have not played a roleplaying game in a month, you are not playing regularly. This is a participatory medium. Your daydreams and intentions to game do not count.

Oh fair enough, I misread you. Apologies.
one two FUCK YOU

crkrueger

Quote from: Panjumanju;749890I don't understand why you're getting personal. You're making the assumption that I'm arguing that a regular gaming schedule is somehow a superiour lifestyle. It's obviously not. There are always other, superiour, priorities in life. This isn't a qualitative judgement - people who are playing regularly are not better or wiser than people who are not.

But if you have not played a roleplaying game in a month, you are not playing regularly. This is a participatory medium. Your daydreams and intentions to game do not count.

If you haven't jogged in a month, you are not jogging regularly. You can't call yourself a jogger. If you haven't painted in a month, you're not painting regularly. You're not a painter. This is not an issue of maturity, it's word definition.

//Panjumanju

So teachers who get the summer off or take a research sabbatical are no longer teachers?  Interesting.  Someone call Webster.
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Emperor Norton

The idea that you stop being something the moment you have a short break in it (and a month is a short period of time really) is asinine.

If you wanted to say "how many of you gamed in the last month" then that would have made sense. Making that the definition of gamer doesn't.

So does that mean a guy who hadn't played in ten years but played one game yesterday is a gamer, but the guy who has played weekly for ten years but had to take a short break for work or family reasons isn't? That is just stupid.

My brother is home with horrible kidney stones that have lasted for 3 weeks, and our game the week before was cancelled because I was on vacation. Is he suddenly not a gamer either?