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Dungeons & Dragons & Philosophers

Started by Maese Mateo, April 07, 2014, 02:25:11 PM

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Bedrockbrendan

#15
April 11, 2014, 08:01:33 AM
Quote from: Marleycat;742059I figure about 5 minutes. If I want philosophy rants I play MtAs, lurk at RPG.NET or remember college. If want to game, I PLAY DnD, MtAw or something similar.

Absolutely agree, and I minored in philosophy. I don't have any desire to listen to that stuff at the game table.

RunningLaser

#16
April 11, 2014, 10:05:34 AM
Quote from: Marleycat;742059If want to game, I PLAY DnD

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;742096I don't have any desire to listen to that stuff at the game table.

Bingo.  I'm there to play a game.

Akrasia

#17
April 11, 2014, 12:53:39 PM
Quote from: Brad;742053This comic reminds me why I avoided postmodernism in graduate school.

Kant is pretty much as far away from postmodernism as one can get.  He's the embodiment of 'modernism' ("Sapere aude!").  And he is, of course, the only one that actually knows how to play D&D.

The existentialists, whatever their faults, were not postmodernists either.  

It pains me to see the charlatan Derrida classified as a 'philosopher'.
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Snowman0147

#18
April 11, 2014, 01:09:45 PM
Poor Kant...  He got killed by orcs because everyone else didn't know how to play the game.

Rincewind1

#19
April 11, 2014, 01:12:12 PM Last Edit: April 11, 2014, 01:19:11 PM by Rincewind1
Quote from: Akrasia;742155Kant is pretty much as far away from postmodernism as one can get.  He's the embodiment of 'modernism' ("Sapere aude!").  And he is, of course, the only one that actually knows how to play D&D.

The existentialists, whatever their faults, were not postmodernists either.  

It pains me to see the charlatan Derrida classified as a 'philosopher'.

I'm more riled by Satre being Chaotic Good, anyone being a hardline fan of Stalin's is Neutral at best.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Snowman0147

#20
April 11, 2014, 01:25:18 PM
The more I read these comics the more I think it pokes fun at these people.  They seem to do the dumbest things ever.  I read one comic that two people found a genie and they wasted their three wishes on things that can't happen.  Now they are still stuck in the desert with no water.

Brad

#21
April 11, 2014, 02:54:47 PM Last Edit: April 11, 2014, 03:02:58 PM by Brad
Quote from: Akrasia;742155The existentialists, whatever their faults, were not postmodernists either.

What

To clarify, only an existentialist would eschew the postmodern label, which makes it all the more laughable as they're just Postmodern 2: Electric Boogaloo.

(and of course Kant isn't a postmodern...yeesh)
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Akrasia

#22
April 11, 2014, 03:30:19 PM
Quote from: Brad;742178What

To clarify, only an existentialist would eschew the postmodern label, which makes it all the more laughable as they're just Postmodern 2: Electric Boogaloo.

Existentialism (Kierkegaard, Dostoyevsky, Sartre, Camus, etc.) predates Postmodernism (Baudrillard, Lyotard, Derrida, Foucault [arguably], etc.), and is distinct from it.

While existentialism (and phenomenology and pragmatism and other things) influenced postmodernism, they are not the same thing.
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James Gillen

#23
April 12, 2014, 01:05:26 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;742034I've seen it.  I think its pretty spot on at showing how all the crapulent civilization-betraying philosophers of the 20th century are essentially Swine.

More like the other way around, right?

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RPGPundit

#24
April 13, 2014, 04:01:59 AM
Quote from: James Gillen;742247More like the other way around, right?

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#25
April 14, 2014, 12:04:03 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;742351All Swine are crapulent civilization-betraying philosophers?

More like "the Swine" are to gaming what deconstructionism is to philosophy.

JG
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Chivalric

#26
April 14, 2014, 09:34:18 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;742034I've seen it.  I think its pretty spot on at showing how all the crapulent civilization-betraying philosophers of the 20th century are essentially Swine.

Don't worry Pundit.  Neuroscience will do to philosophy what chemistry did to alchemy.  The pragmatists and logical positivists will win out in the end.

Brad

#27
April 14, 2014, 01:20:51 PM Last Edit: April 14, 2014, 01:23:23 PM by Brad
Quote from: Akrasia;742182Existentialism (Kierkegaard, Dostoyevsky, Sartre, Camus, etc.) predates Postmodernism (Baudrillard, Lyotard, Derrida, Foucault [arguably], etc.), and is distinct from it.

While existentialism (and phenomenology and pragmatism and other things) influenced postmodernism, they are not the same thing.

Sure.

Only if you're a postmodern.
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Shipyard Locked

#28
April 14, 2014, 01:30:36 PM
Quote from: NathanIW;742533Neuroscience will do to philosophy what chemistry did to alchemy.  

Doesn't neuroscience (specifically the depressing brutality of its truths) have the potential to be more destructive to the course of civilization that philosophy though?

Chivalric

#29
April 15, 2014, 02:30:36 AM
Quote from: Shipyard Locked;742581Doesn't neuroscience (specifically the depressing brutality of its truths) have the potential to be more destructive to the course of civilization that philosophy though?

Yes.  Just like chemistry can be far, far more destructive to the course of civilization than alchemy.
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