FGU is still printing Villains & Vigilantes.

Problem is FGU effectively stole the game from the original designers on a technicality dodge.

Sometimes a reprint is not a good thing.

Though cases like this are rare.

Quote from: TristramEvans;725043I really cant stand it when companies sit on IPs.

If CCP is sitting on it, I imagine it's because nobody has been willing to meet their price (or made an offer?).  They had a bad-ish stretch a couple years back where they scaled back their WoD goals and let a lot of people go, when they let their vision get in the way of EVE being a spaceship game.  I don't know, but expect, that they would have gladly offloaded it then if they could have got money for it.

What's a property like BESM d20 worth, anyways?  I mean, I have lots of fond memories of playing and running it, very far from perfect but it hit a sweet spot of "has anime stuff" and "is close enough to D&D that there's minimal onboarding/system fatigue".

Quote from: Artifacts of Amber;725285I don't have as much a problem with Disney when they are using their IP / trade mark. They have something that has value and need to defend it.

I do; Disney is well known for being assholes about this.  I was all set to do a Zorro book for GURPS Swashbucklers, and Disney sent a cease-and-desist, claiming they owned the property on the strength of their 1950s Zorro TV series.  This was plainly absurd, but I really couldn't blame SJG for wanting no part of the inevitable court battle; what Disney spends on the corporate counsel's office's cafeteria a year probably exceeds SJG's annual gross income.

Quote from: Alathon;725402If CCP is sitting on it, I imagine it's because nobody has been willing to meet their price (or made an offer?).  They had a bad-ish stretch a couple years back where they scaled back their WoD goals and let a lot of people go, when they let their vision get in the way of EVE being a spaceship game.  I don't know, but expect, that they would have gladly offloaded it then if they could have got money for it.

What's a property like BESM d20 worth, anyways?  I mean, I have lots of fond memories of playing and running it, very far from perfect but it hit a sweet spot of "has anime stuff" and "is close enough to D&D that there's minimal onboarding/system fatigue".

We've been talking about the original tri-stat version not the d20 one but whatever.

Quote from: Tyrrell;725309And they're doing a heck of a fine job. Fifth edition (which is over nine years old at this point) is seen by the majority of the fan base as head and shoulders above any prior edition in nearly every way (except accessibility, where there is much to be said for second edition).  It has 35 supplements to date and there's not a bad book in the lot.

Yeah, I really like latest one - "Transforming Mythic Europe", which is a supplement about using magic to radically change the landscape (physical, political, whatever of Europe). Of course, it's always been the case in the game that this is decidedly against the Order of Hermes' rules (to explain why the setting looks like real history instead of a radically divergent alt-history), but Atlas are wise enough to realise that having that ban in place is interesting precisely because of when and how the PCs decide to defy the ban and provide appropriate support.

Plus they've expanded Houses of Hermes into a really solid three-book line, and they've got Realms of Power supplement for all 4 Realms (thank you Atlas for removing that Mage: the Ascension-inspired Realm of Reason bullshit that crept in during 3rd), plus they put out this really neat Apprentices supplement that add young trainee wizards to the usual magi/grogs/companions breakdown of characters, plus...

Man, I really want to play some ArsM5, it's been too long.

Quote from: Omega;725399FGU is still printing Villains & Vigilantes.

Problem is FGU effectively stole the game from the original designers on a technicality dodge.

Sometimes a reprint is not a good thing.

Though cases like this are rare.

Actually, it seems the original designers are still putting out their own version too.

Quote from: Warthur;725502Actually, it seems the original designers are still putting out their own version too.

Saw that. But they still lost their original stuff to FGU and doesnt look like they will ever get it back at this rate.

Didn't Jackson have simmilar hassles getting The Fantasy Trip away from Metagaming and eventually created GURPS?

Apparently Jeff Dee and Jack Herman won their case vs. FGU and can cancel their 1979 contract with them as of this year.

Lord Hobie

Quote from: Omega;726102Saw that. But they still lost their original stuff to FGU and doesnt look like they will ever get it back at this rate.

The version they are currently selling is a corrected version of 2nd edition, which FGU put out, so it looks like either they don't care or they did in fact get the rights back.

Quote from: Omega;726102Didn't Jackson have simmilar hassles getting The Fantasy Trip away from Metagaming and eventually created GURPS?

It was simply that Howard Thompson's and Steve Jackson's breakup was nasty, and that Thompson would only let TFT go to him for an absurd amount of money for the time -- six figures.  After a short bit of wrangling, Jackson said "screw that" and decided to write a new game, if he couldn't get his old one.  Hence GURPS.

Thankfully, Stafford owns the rights to Pendragon. He's done great things with it, too.

Quote from: jeff37923;724637They are still around. The last thing I remember them doing was a Mekton Zero kickstarter.

Yep, Mekton Zero is due out about any time now (they're a little bit behind on the release).

Quote from: TristramEvans;724615Ars Magica
The 4th edition corebook is available free on Drive-Thru

I can't find it, do you have a link?

Quote from: Maese Mateo;728027I can't find it, do you have a link?

I vouldnt find it either; might have been taken down, but you can still get it free here:

http://e23.sjgames.com/item.html?id=AG0204

Quote from: TristramEvans;728029I vouldnt find it either; might have been taken down, but you can still get it free here:

http://e23.sjgames.com/item.html?id=AG0204

Thank you!:D