Quote from: WerekoalaFor what its worth, I would point out that a minority wanted American independence from England too. Or that a minority (and a pretty small one when you consider number of voters vs. total number of citizens) voted for Bush the first time out.

It dosn't always take a majority to make a difference.

You finally got something right, WK. It had to happen sooner or later.

Remember that only a minority of germans were followers of nazins and hitler, but the minority made the deciscions. Hell, a majority of american voters voted against bush in 2000, and that worthless piece of shit still ended up becomeing, in his own words "the decider" on wars.

If the majority sits on it's ass and does nothing but 'disagree" but then does what it's told by the minority, wht the hell does the majority matter?

They tell us that the 'majority" of iranians are tired of repressive shariah domination and want a more free culture, but the minority, lead by a nutcase who probably whacks off looking at pictures of jews in concentration camps, is the "decision maker" over there, and we have to deal with that, not the irrelevant majority.

When the majority doesn't stop the minority from doing what it wants, the majority becomes irrelevant and should be treated as such.

Quote from: Dominus NoxYou finally got something right, WK. It had to happen sooner or later.

*snicker*

I mean, um, thanks!

Quote from: WerekoalaFor what its worth, I would point out that a minority wanted American independence from England too. Or that a minority (and a pretty small one when you consider number of voters vs. total number of citizens) voted for Bush the first time out.

In the first case, that 'minority' was a sizeable chunk of the ruling class.

In the second case, that's a function of the electoral college system.

Neither of which apply to a small percentage of a small percentage of the population of the UK.

Quote from: droogIn the first case, that 'minority' was a sizeable chunk of the ruling class.

In the second case, that's a function of the electoral college system.

Neither of which apply to a small percentage of a small percentage of the population of the UK.

Not yet. With the declining "native" British birthrates and increased immigration, I'd expect that'll be changing over the next few decades.

From the 2001 census:



So if 13% of people identifying as Muslim want a state of Sharia law, that's like 0.35% of the population. Dangerous!

Watch out for those "Not stated" bastards! For every two Moslems in the UK, there are five people who say, "none of your fucking business." Those people who want privacy, have to watch out for them! Dodgy buggers.

Quote from: WerekoalaFor what its worth, I would point out that a minority wanted American independence from England too. Or that a minority (and a pretty small one when you consider number of voters vs. total number of citizens) voted for Bush the first time out.

It dosn't always take a majority to make a difference.

Over this particular issue it absolutely would. The UK is moving away from religion being involved in politics which is a fine thing in my eyes. I'm not saying it's not possible I'm saying we won't let it happen. In fact I'm saying the majority of Muslims won't let it happen.

And fuck what Nox says my Muslim mates are fucking sound and always the first to invite numpties like me to have a game of cricket and hang out. I have no idea what kind of Muslims he hangs out with.

Quote from: Garry GOver this particular issue it absolutely would. The UK is moving away from religion being involved in politics which is a fine thing in my eyes. I'm not saying it's not possible I'm saying we won't let it happen. In fact I'm saying the majority of Muslims won't let it happen.

And fuck what Nox says my Muslim mates are fucking sound and always the first to invite numpties like me to have a game of cricket and hang out. I have no idea what kind of Muslims he hangs out with.

Well, I was just making a general point about the power of a minority. I sincerely hope you're right about England, by the way. Been to London a few times and loved it! Would be a shame if something were to happen to it.

Quote from: WerekoalaWell, I was just making a general point about the power of a minority. I sincerely hope you're right about England, by the way. Been to London a few times and loved it! Would be a shame if something were to happen to it.

You're point isn't a bad one but I don't think we're heading that way.

Please don't call us England it can be irksome for us Scots.

There is about as much chance of the UK becoming a fundamentalist Islamic state as there is of me becoming a Pentecostalist.

Quote from: Garry GYou're point isn't a bad one but I don't think we're heading that way.

Please don't call us England it can be irksome for us Scots.

As a Texan, I can actually understand where yer coming from.

Quote from: Garry GYou're point isn't a bad one but I don't think we're heading that way.

Please don't call us England it can be irksome for us Scots.

You know, even when we Americans say UK or Britain we usually really are thinking of England.  As far as most of us are concerned, it's the only part of the UK worth mentioning.

Ireland only exists on St. Patrick's Day or when we're hearing a news report about someone getting blown up.  Scotland is where Guinness and bagpipes come from.  Wales isn't even on the radar screen.

You know, sort of like how America is California, Texas, and New York.

Quote from: Dominus NoxRemember that only a minority of germans were followers of nazins and hitler, but the minority made the deciscions. Hell, a majority of american voters voted against bush in 2000, and that worthless piece of shit still ended up becomeing, in his own words "the decider" on wars.

And don't even get me started on those God damned mountain lions. :mad:

!i!

Quote from: Garry GI have no idea what kind of Muslims he hangs out with.

"Dude, these burkhas are, like, totally lame!"

Quote from: hgjsYou know, even when we Americans say UK or Britain we usually really are thinking of England.  As far as most of us are concerned, it's the only part of the UK worth mentioning.

Ireland only exists on St. Patrick's Day or when we're hearing a news report about someone getting blown up.  Scotland is where Guinness and bagpipes come from.  Wales isn't even on the radar screen.

You know, sort of like how America is California, Texas, and New York.

FYI:
Guinness is Irish, not Scottish.
The Republic of Ireland -- including Dublin, where Guinness is brewed (although there is also a brewery in London) -- is not part of the UK (unlike Scotland, Wales, England, and Northern Ireland).  Including RoI as part of the UK is like including Canada as part of the U.S.

You Americans.  :rolleyes: