Quote from: Sacrificial Lamb;690015Yes, it used to be Nutkinland. But when this place changed hands (and became Pundit's), it became a

I think the right way to complete this sentence is "massive success that nutkinland had never managed to be, thanks to the Pundit's superior brilliance".

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Quote from: RPGPundit;691299This term makes no sense. You're just taking "New game designers not in any way related to OSR" and choosing to call it "new wave OSR".  Its a bullshit tactic whose only possible purpose is to dilute the definition of OSR.

"Only possible purpose"....don't be a conspiracy theorist.

The reason the series is called that is because "People With Game Blogs Who Hang Out With OSR People On G+ That Courtney Likes And Just Found Out About Recently" is a mouthful.

Jeez.

Who the designer (Ian) really is is a recovering (?) internet-snark addict who learned about the OSR a while ago because of his bros making fun of it and then discovered a whole bunch of cool games and gamers in the OSR and has been hanging out with them ever since.

So Ian is a person. He did actual things in real life and has a social relationship with lots of people who are really into old school D&D. He is still really into newie mechanics--possibly (having played with him) because his home group is way better with that kind of game than his onlne pals.

The mechanics that made it into his published game aren't very Old School at all. That doesn't mean that he's part of a conspiracy. He's just this guy, you know?

Quote from: RPGPundit;691299Its a bullshit tactic whose only possible purpose is to dilute the definition of OSR.

I don't think that's a fair assessment.

I mean, it could by a cynical, calculated attempt to lure in gamers who'd have nothing to do with the game on its actual merits by using a current trend in gaming as a meaningless marketing blurb.

Or it could simply be complete ignorance about the OSR's origins leading to using a term the author really doesn't understand enough to use meaningfully.

Given the number of possible explanations, let's not jump to conclusions here. That would be bad.

Agreed. I think this type of thing is unavoidable, and born out of ignorance more than sheer malice. The more the "OSR" as a Thing becomes popular and wide-spread, the more things like this happen, the more the term itself loses its meaning. There isn't really much new under the Sun here: this happened with rock n' roll, punk rock, and pretty much whatever-the-fuck else. Doesn't stop people from enjoying Sex Pistols music today, or creating their own bands, mind you.

Quote from: Justin Alexander;689973Unfortunately, I've also found it to be virtually impossible. What inevitably happens is that you spend a massive chunk of time soliciting volunteers, organizing the volunteers, and then disseminating the material. (I've made several attempts in which this work actually chewed up more time than initially developing the material.)

And then you hear back from less than 5% of the volunteers you sent material to (which, in many cases, means that you hear back from literally nobody). Of those you do hear back from, 95% of them didn't actually play the game or scenario: They read it and now they're just theory-wanking or armchair quarterbacking.

I'm guessing that even companies like WotC and Paizo don't see percentages much different than that. They just have big enough numbers that they can occasionally get some useful feedback mixed in with the chaff.

This quote is so much truer than I wish it was.

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I consider myself tangentially involved in the OSR - both by playing in it's infamous FLAILSNAIL games, and by running a blog where the majority of the posts deal with old school D&D. Stab City! is, you are correct, nothing at all like D&D, but I enjoy many different approaches to RPGs, and just happened to want to make a game that is inspired by contemporary game design. I'm sorry if there was any confusion.

-Ian

Quote from: Cheneybeast;691333Pundit-

I consider myself tangentially involved in the OSR - both by playing in it's infamous FLAILSNAIL games, and by running a blog where the majority of the posts deal with old school D&D. Stab City! is, you are correct, nothing at all like D&D, but I enjoy many different approaches to RPGs, and just happened to want to make a game that is inspired by contemporary game design. I'm sorry if there was any confusion.

-Ian

That sounds good; and I get where you're coming from now. Wish you luck with your games.

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The soufflé... is good. :cool: