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Paizo/Pathfinder Response to D&D Next

Started by Jaeger, August 23, 2013, 06:32:51 PM

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Bill

#135
August 28, 2013, 02:49:07 PM
Quote from: noisms;686567Yeah, those bra manufacturers are crazy the way they jettison half the population... ;)

Is it really half? How many women don't wear bras, and how many men do?

noisms

#136
August 28, 2013, 02:50:24 PM
Quote from: Bill;686568Is it really half? How many women don't wear bras, and how many men do?

Is there something you want to tell us, Bill?
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Rincewind1

#137
August 28, 2013, 02:54:32 PM
Quote from: Bill;686568Is it really half? How many women don't wear bras, and how many men do?

Only women wear bras, you transphobic freak!
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

robiswrong

#138
August 28, 2013, 02:56:59 PM
Quote from: flyerfan1991;686534There is a wargame out there that sells well year in and year out.  Axis and Allies.  It's just that to the grognards, it's anathema.

So what's the RPG equivalent of A&A?

Quote from: jadrax;686560It is a mistake to view them as just stores. They are essentially a babysitting service that will take your annoying kid off you while you go shopping in exchange for a ton of cash spent on bits.

There's a good point here, too - if you can give a benefit to the parents, they're more willing to shell out cash.

Bill

#139
August 28, 2013, 02:58:35 PM
Quote from: noisms;686569Is there something you want to tell us, Bill?

Embrace your feminine side.

noisms

#140
August 28, 2013, 03:12:21 PM
Quote from: Bill;686577Embrace your feminine side.

It's alright thanks, I prefer embracing somebody feminine.
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Bill

#141
August 28, 2013, 03:17:59 PM
Quote from: noisms;686579It's alright thanks, I prefer embracing somebody feminine.

Ever see the Crying Game?

jeff37923

#142
August 28, 2013, 03:22:31 PM
Quote from: Bill;686583Ever see the Crying Game?

You mean 4E?
"Meh."

Piestrio

#143
August 28, 2013, 03:27:15 PM
Quote from: robiswrong;686576There's a good point here, too - if you can give a benefit to the parents, they're more willing to shell out cash.

That's how many a FLGS stay afloat. One of the busiest times at my old FLGS is weekdays from about 3-5 as kids come in and play games until their folks get home.
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noisms

#144
August 28, 2013, 03:27:21 PM
Quote from: Bill;686583Ever see the Crying Game?

Yes. Does that count as a spoiler in the context of this conversation? ;)
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Bill

#145
August 28, 2013, 03:32:26 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;686586You mean 4E?

I cry inside each time I hear the words 'Healing Surge'

flyerfan1991

#146
August 28, 2013, 03:54:53 PM
Quote from: robiswrong;686576So what's the RPG equivalent of A&A?

I believe that's Pathfinder, and has been for the past few years.

robiswrong

#147
August 28, 2013, 04:08:03 PM
Quote from: flyerfan1991;686604I believe that's Pathfinder, and has been for the past few years.

I don't think so.  I don't think Pathfinder is really beginner-friendly enough to serve as a gateway game.

It may often *be* the gateway game, but I don't think it does a particularly good job of it.

To me, a gateway game would be something that's easy for beginners to pick up and start playing with minimal investment of finances and time, and with a pretty easy learning curve, compared to the hobbyist-focused games.  And I see PF as being a hobbyist-focused game, personally.

Bill

#148
August 28, 2013, 04:09:50 PM
Quote from: robiswrong;686611I don't think so.  I don't think Pathfinder is really beginner-friendly enough to serve as a gateway game.

It may often *be* the gateway game, but I don't think it does a particularly good job of it.

To me, a gateway game would be something that's easy for beginners to pick up and start playing with minimal investment of finances and time, and with a pretty easy learning curve, compared to the hobbyist-focused games.  And I see PF as being a hobbyist-focused game, personally.

Pathfinder is a Character Optimiser game. It does not HAVE to be, but certainly offers that to anyone that wants it.

flyerfan1991

#149
August 28, 2013, 04:15:47 PM
Quote from: robiswrong;686611I don't think so.  I don't think Pathfinder is really beginner-friendly enough to serve as a gateway game.

It may often *be* the gateway game, but I don't think it does a particularly good job of it.

To me, a gateway game would be something that's easy for beginners to pick up and start playing with minimal investment of finances and time, and with a pretty easy learning curve, compared to the hobbyist-focused games.  And I see PF as being a hobbyist-focused game, personally.

Pathfinder can be a gateway game, courtesy of their Beginner Box.

Anything simpler than the Beginner Box (or D&D Next's Basic version, assuming they follow the modular pattern), and you're into the FATE and Savage Worlds areas of "rules lite".
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