I really like the War aspect of the setting, as in, you know, fantasy World War II, and the whole kind of ... Maltese Falcon, for lack of a better reference coming to mind, type of mysteries waiting to be uncovered since that troubled, all-out destructive war period ended.

Yes, I like Eberron. A lot. With 1st edition rules... it'd be a blast.

I'm kind of curious what Hellcow thinks of DDO, given it's one of the few MMO's that manages to keep my interest, and I think a lot of that has to do with the uniqueness of the Eberron setting.

Indeed, welcome aboard HellCow!

Quote from: JonWake;682652One group can play a group of murderhobos who have both alignments: Kill Shit and Get Paid

Where do I sign up?

Quote from: Benoist;683806OK Mark. Now you're just being dishonest by pretending to miss the actual point I keep repeating. You're not dumb. I'm sorry, but I don't have the time to play games for X pages as you just did on that other thread. You understood what I just told you.

Naw, I responded to every point you made, genuinely, with attention to detail, because I felt you deserved a thoughtful response.  You, on the other hand, grouped it all, hand-waived everything I just said, and responded with essentially a "Ditto what I said last".  Which is, at best, rude.  Better to not respond at all, than to go out of your way to post a "fuck you" like that.

I DO understand what you're saying.  And I think you're wrong.  And I explained, in detail, why I think you're wrong.  You can not like my opinion, but you can't pretend I missed the point of what you said.  I got the point, most assuredly.  And, I think your point is faulty.

Quote from: Grymbok;683784Hellcow is the designer of Eberron - Keith Baker, the author of the original setting search submission.

I've never played Eberron (well, outside of D&D Online) but I seem to retain this kind of trivia knowledge

Eberron was the setting that got me back into D&D, and it was WotC's handling of the setting that drove me off again.

Quote from: James Gillen;683911Twinks who do not respect the idea that the GM is there to set standards and referee on those standards are not going to respect that idea if it's reiterated on paper.

JG

True, but you shouldn't play with assholes like that anyway.

Quote from: Novastar;683933I'm kind of curious what Hellcow thinks of DDO, given it's one of the few MMO's that manages to keep my interest, and I think a lot of that has to do with the uniqueness of the Eberron setting.

Honestly, I haven't played it as much as I'd like to, those I have played in the past and enjoyed it. I've met many of the designers and writers, and certainly been impressed with their passion for the setting and desire to work in a lot of pretty obscure lore (for example, the Daelkyr Orlassk). Things aren't always presented exactly as I'd do it, but that's the nature of working in different mediums; certain things that work in a tabletop RPG don't translate directly to an MMO/comic/novel/etc, and you need to come up with an interpretation that works with the medium.

Quote from: Mistwell;684174Naw, I responded to every point you made, genuinely, with attention to detail, because I felt you deserved a thoughtful response.  You, on the other hand, grouped it all, hand-waived everything I just said, and responded with essentially a "Ditto what I said last".  Which is, at best, rude.  Better to not respond at all, than to go out of your way to post a "fuck you" like that.

I DO understand what you're saying.  And I think you're wrong.  And I explained, in detail, why I think you're wrong.  You can not like my opinion, but you can't pretend I missed the point of what you said.  I got the point, most assuredly.  And, I think your point is faulty.

The feeling's mutual. When I am telling you that your data is subjective because it is partial and biased (which is actually the exact definition of "subjective", by the way), and that you basically brush it off with an opening salvo declaring I'm just making an argument based on faith because I'd be some sort of extremist or whatnot (when we are actually not talking about the game's iteration I play, run and design game materials for currently), repeating the same bits of partial, biased data intimating it's better than none at all, when I am most definitely not making ANY pronunciation one way or the other as some sort of objective fact, pointing out instead that your data sample IS partial and biased and that the only thing I could oppose to that are my gut feelings - which I pointed out, explicitly - you come off to me as an asshole pretending he doesn't get what I was just saying.

So... yeah. The feeling, or frustration, whatever you want to call it, is mutual at this point.

Quote from: MeTwinks who do not respect the idea that the GM is there to set standards and referee on those standards are not going to respect that idea if it's reiterated on paper.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;684345True, but you shouldn't play with assholes like that anyway.

That was kinda my point.

jg

Quote from: James Gillen;684704That was kinda my point.

jg

Some things are worth being blunt about.