Quote from: 1989;680432Apathy.

D&D has been dead for some time, now. 5e playtests continue to confuse people, with no clear drive/goal/endgame in sight.

WW is dead.

GURPS and HERO are dead.

RPG industry is in the worst shape it's ever been in.

Not much to look forward to in RPGs these days.

GW miniatures in alley this morning, tire tread on burst sprues.  This convention is afraid of me. I have seen it's true face. The exhibitor hall is an extended gutter and the gutter is filled with catpiss, and when the drains finally scab over, all the swine will drown...The accumulated filth of all their storygames and murder-hobos will foam up about their waists and all the whores and WW fans will look up and shout "save us!"

They had a choice, all of them. They could have followed in the footsteps of good men like my father, or Gary Gygax. Decent men who believed in a day's work for a day's pay. Instead they followed the droppings of hipsters and communists and didn't realize that the trail led over a precipe until it was too late. Don't tell me they didn't have a choice. Now the whole world stands on the brink, staring down into bloody Hell, a world without D&D, all those liberals and intellectuals and smooth talkers...and all of a sudden nobody can think of anything to say.


Women's breasts draped across every RPG cover, every CCG, littering the sidewalk. Was offered Swedish games and French games...but not American games. American role-playing games; like Coke in green glass bottles...they don't make them anymore.

Quote from: Piestrio;680517Fantasy Flight is the new top tier company. Not #1 but certainly top 3.

Pinnacle seems to release a fair amount of stuff too.

Quote from: joewolz;680511I will drink after the show, as I have in the last couple of Gen Cons.  I don't ever drink more than a beer or two when we record.  Actually, since we switched studio locations and recording times, I haven't had a drink during recording at all.

After the show is recorded, I will get tipsy.

So last year's show was you just having that gaming rush going on?  And I thought you'd been having a few beers with dinner beforehand.

Quote from: jadrax;680522Pinnacle seems to release a fair amount of stuff too.

I've been told Savage Saturday Night is a packed house.

Quote from: 1989;680450What do we have?

Pathfinder.
Palladium.

That's not much to go to GenCon and get excited about.

What has Palladium released this year?  There's the Rifts Vampires Sourcebook, which is an update to and older book, and the new larger format Robotech Macross book, which I'm told has no changes to the text, it's just larger pages.

And a couple of issues of their Rifter magazine, but I've got to assume Kevin doesn't actually do anything much with that magazine, because it seems to actually come out on time.

Quote from: flyerfan1991;680369Did Zach mention if he was going to be there?

HELL YES!

Friday-Sunday this year, but I have reinforcements helping me out. I'll fire up a new thread for it!

Quote from: 1989;680432WW is dead.

The last time I checked, about a month ago when there was a thread on games run at cons, this year's Gen Con had 67 WoD events registered.

Hero is struggling, but not dead.

GURPS is NOT DEAD. You may not be paying attention, but the PDF stuff is still coming out, new books on the horizon, lots of stuff out there. They have a website. You could read it.

D&D will find it's bearings and continue to be the 800lb gorilla in the room next to the 900lb mutant gorilla otherwise known as Pathfinder. Saying shit like this is tantamount to saying "People are confused about oxygen so they stopped breathing".

Kickstarter is bringing us new stuff. Obviously not paying attention to that either. There's a website that shows you new RPG projects http://rpgkickstarters.tumblr.com/. Also, you could read Kickstarter.  EDIT. WW has had several kickstarters recently for 20th anniversary WOD stuff and Exalted.

Sometimes I read these posts and I think to myself "fucking old people"...

There's no Gen Con thread because people GO THERE and then report on it OR (more likely) GO THERE, party, walk, play, scream like teen-addled hysteric fans and have geeky nerd fun to excess, spend a week recovering and then talk about all the cool shit you couldn't do because you spent too much fucking time searching the InterTubes for posts about Gen Con (natch).

You know? Just saying.

Quote from: trechriron;680539Hero is struggling, but not dead.

GURPS is NOT DEAD. You may not be paying attention, but the PDF stuff is still coming out, new books on the horizon, lots of stuff out there. They have a website. You could read it.

D&D will find it's bearings and continue to be the 800lb gorilla in the room next to the 900lb mutant gorilla otherwise known as Pathfinder. Saying shit like this is tantamount to saying "People are confused about oxygen so they stopped breathing".

Kickstarter is bringing us new stuff. Obviously not paying attention to that either. There's a website that shows you new RPG projects http://rpgkickstarters.tumblr.com/. Also, you could read Kickstarter.  EDIT. WW has had several kickstarters recently for 20th anniversary WOD stuff and Exalted.

Sometimes I read these posts and I think to myself "fucking old people"...

There's no Gen Con thread because people GO THERE and then report on it OR (more likely) GO THERE, party, walk, play, scream like teen-addled hysteric fans and have geeky nerd fun to excess, spend a week recovering and then talk about all the cool shit you couldn't do because you spent too much fucking time searching the InterTubes for posts about Gen Con (natch).

You know? Just saying.

Well, you say they're not dead, but, compared to their former glories, they are basically dead.

I'm talking real books on real shelves . . . not pod, pdf, and kickstarter bs.

Where are the GURPS books? No more. PDFs only. lol.

Where are the WW books? POD/kickstarters. lol.

Face it; the hobby is not what it once was.

Quote from: Future Villain Band;680521GW miniatures in alley this morning, tire tread on burst sprues.  This convention is afraid of me. I have seen it's true face. The exhibitor hall is an extended gutter and the gutter is filled with catpiss, and when the drains finally scab over, all the swine will drown...The accumulated filth of all their storygames and murder-hobos will foam up about their waists and all the whores and WW fans will look up and shout "save us!"

They had a choice, all of them. They could have followed in the footsteps of good men like my father, or Gary Gygax. Decent men who believed in a day's work for a day's pay. Instead they followed the droppings of hipsters and communists and didn't realize that the trail led over a precipe until it was too late. Don't tell me they didn't have a choice. Now the whole world stands on the brink, staring down into bloody Hell, a world without D&D, all those liberals and intellectuals and smooth talkers...and all of a sudden nobody can think of anything to say.


Women's breasts draped across every RPG cover, every CCG, littering the sidewalk. Was offered Swedish games and French games...but not American games. American role-playing games; like Coke in green glass bottles...they don't make them anymore.

Not yet, but don't worry, you and yours will get us there I'm sure, well except for the part about the breasts.

That's what you wanted, right?

Maybe all the people who actually like roleplaying should take a vacation and let the SJW's brawl with the storygamers then like Tucker's Kobolds, we can come up and just finish off who won.

Quote from: CRKrueger;680581Not yet, but don't worry, you and yours will get us there I'm sure, well except for the part about the breasts.

That's what you wanted, right?

Maybe all the people who actually like roleplaying should take a vacation and let the SJW's brawl with the storygamers then like Tucker's Kobolds, we can come up and just finish off who won.

That won't happen. I mean I like(d) Levi, he had some mean setting riffs, but look how everyone's cool with his artistic "RPG statement". If you'd draft the same scenario as part of a D&D campaign dealing with medium level domain play (PCs, being lords of the lands, are asked to pass judgement on the rapist, who's a nobleman and took advantage of a merchant's daughter, to take an example out of Crusader Kings), there'd be blood.

I've read some that bemoan the lack of books or other paper products being produced. Some have pointed out that this not strictly true. That aside, I do not get the desire for the "golden age" of RPG books galore. RPGs are a niche market and the publishing costs must be expensive for relatively few printings. Thus, PDFs and other less expensive forms of getting the rpgs into the consumer's hands is really saving the hobby and allowing for great independent work. Thus, I see not reason to despair, the medium of the hobbies primary format might change but this allows more variety, less dominance centered in any one location and vastly more accessibility.

Quote from: Future Villain Band;680521GW miniatures in alley this morning, tire tread on burst sprues.  This convention is afraid of me. I have seen it's true face. The exhibitor hall is an extended gutter and the gutter is filled with catpiss, and when the drains finally scab over, all the swine will drown...The accumulated filth of all their storygames and murder-hobos will foam up about their waists and all the whores and WW fans will look up and shout "save us!"

They had a choice, all of them. They could have followed in the footsteps of good men like my father, or Gary Gygax. Decent men who believed in a day's work for a day's pay. Instead they followed the droppings of hipsters and communists and didn't realize that the trail led over a precipe until it was too late. Don't tell me they didn't have a choice. Now the whole world stands on the brink, staring down into bloody Hell, a world without D&D, all those liberals and intellectuals and smooth talkers...and all of a sudden nobody can think of anything to say.


Women's breasts draped across every RPG cover, every CCG, littering the sidewalk. Was offered Swedish games and French games...but not American games. American role-playing games; like Coke in green glass bottles...they don't make them anymore.

'What happened to the roleplaying hobby dream?'

'It came true. You're lookin' at it.'

Quote from: flyerfan1991;680524So last year's show was you just having that gaming rush going on?  And I thought you'd been having a few beers with dinner beforehand.

We recorded before dinner on Saturday.  I talk a big game but I try to maintain some modicum of professionalism before recording...not that I don't say a bunch of crazy stuff.

I am usually pretty aped during the entire weekend of GenCon.  I'm typically a very high energy guy, so yeah: gaming rush!

Quote from: joewolz;680349I'm super excited for several games coming out.

What are people looking forward to?

I've got a list consisting of Eldritch Horror (demo), 7 Card Slugfest, and Level 7: Omega Protocol on my list for boardgames.

For roleplaying games the big releases on my list are Numenera and Eclipse Phase: Transhuman (although I kickstarted both of them, so I don't actually have to wait for Gencon).

Are there any other RPGs coming out that have people interested?