The Most Complicated RPG You Ever Played

taustin · June 26, 2013, 01:55:20 PM

Quote from: jeff37923;665823During the Mongoose Traveller demo at Free RPG Day, I explained some of Traveller's heavy ordinance. When I got to Meson Guns, one Player grabbed his head and melodrammatically declared, "Oh, fuck! Traveller kills people with science!"

But he's OK with swords, clubs, and, well, magic spells?

jeff37923 · June 26, 2013, 02:12:40 PM

Quote from: taustin;665833But he's OK with swords, clubs, and, well, magic spells?

I don't know. He and the rest of the Players at my table skipped playing the offered fantasy RPGs in order to play the Mongoose Traveller demo which took up an extra 3 hour slot due to overwhelming Player interest in the game.

James Gillen · June 27, 2013, 01:55:17 AM

Quote from: jeff37923;665823The Admiral isn't very politically correct....

Admirals tend not to be.

jg

James Gillen · June 27, 2013, 01:56:34 AM

Quote from: flyingcircus;665824I think Exalted, the layout was just horrid and made it too complicated to run to me, so I got rid of it.

When Hero Games came out with The Atlantean Age, I thought, "here's a game for people who like Exalted but want less bookkeeping and micro-management of combat."

JG

RPGPundit · June 28, 2013, 01:36:26 PM

I found the HERO system on the way-too-complicated end of the spectrum too.

Shawn Driscoll · June 28, 2013, 10:37:46 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;666462I found the HERO system on the way-too-complicated end of the spectrum too.

Last night I sat in on a Star HERO character generation session. Players didn't know what kind of character to be, so no one could decide what things to buy for their character. Not everyone had the rules, and the Hero site is dead for now.

James Gillen · June 29, 2013, 02:09:34 AM

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;666629Last night I sat in on a Star HERO character generation session. Players didn't know what kind of character to be, so no one could decide what things to buy for their character. Not everyone had the rules, and the Hero site is dead for now.

It's been dead for a while now, if you get my drift.

JG

valency · June 29, 2013, 08:33:44 AM

Rollmaster (ie "Chartmaster.") So much pointless complexity. Roll to strike, then modify for OB and DB and "Adrenal Defense" and locate your weapon's strike table and compare the roll with the target's armour type and check the crit table if necessary. I mean it all plays fast enough when you get used to it, but it's all so pointless and fails to give the various weapons and attack types any real personality anyway.

Shawn Driscoll · June 29, 2013, 09:04:27 AM

Quote from: valency;666712Rollmaster (ie "Chartmaster.") So much pointless complexity. Roll to strike, then modify for OB and DB and "Adrenal Defense" and locate your weapon's strike table and compare the roll with the target's armour type and check the crit table if necessary. I mean it all plays fast enough when you get used to it, but it's all so pointless and fails to give the various weapons and attack types any real personality anyway.

Just give me my fuckin' +1 Sword so I can roll already. I'll role with the bunches.

RPGPundit · June 30, 2013, 05:39:22 AM

Continuum was also extremely complicated, though I liked that game; though there the complexity wasn't in the rules but in the book-keeping required by how the rules handled time-travel.

Bill · July 01, 2013, 08:43:31 AM

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll;666629Last night I sat in on a Star HERO character generation session. Players didn't know what kind of character to be, so no one could decide what things to buy for their character. Not everyone had the rules, and the Hero site is dead for now.

In my experience, allthough I like HERO, don't bother playing unless the gm has extensive experience, and has a clue in general.

RPGPundit · July 02, 2013, 03:10:01 AM

I guess my conclusion is that I don't care for almost any system of mechanics that's more complicated than D&D. Its my upper limit.

Clamps · December 31, 2014, 05:32:24 AM

I submit that D&D (3.5 and Pathfinder) are to me more complicated than Continuum. Because I'm not a system-oriented person, I find that designing an encounter in D&D to be a harrowing experience.
I guess I'm not wired that way.
But making a session in Continuum just requires me to power up my brain and think about 4th dimensional possibilities. This is pretty much a hobby for me anyway, so if I get to apply this in a game, then all the better.

tuypo1 · December 31, 2014, 06:01:45 AM

Quote from: Libertad;6629773rd Edition Dungeons & Dragons.

Quote from: danbuter;6629853e, especially with all of the sourcebooks we were using. Loved it, though.

i honestly think its more a case of a lot of options rather then actual complication of course for those that dont like it i should point out the huge amount of options is exactly why i love it so much i love you prestige classes

as for most complicated i have to say 3e to but thats only because i dont have that many games to draw on as examples although i have been looking at oh fuck whats its called the game with the fancy looking character sheet

BarefootGaijin · December 31, 2014, 07:12:53 AM

3.PF with just a core book and no experience with the D20 system. Fuck that shit. Most unhealthy, harrowing, bollocks experience of my life and a terrible pox on gaming. At least using Hero System was FUN.