ConTessa: Women in Gaming Done Right

Rincewind1 · June 05, 2013, 08:18:36 PM

Also someone should reply with a convention called ManQuise

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The Traveller · June 05, 2013, 08:22:20 PM

Quote from: Rincewind1;660340My cynical side sees this less as a political statement, and more as a marketing...I don't want to say gimmick, let's say "tool". "What can we do to refresh this tired idea of convention, and bring new people into it with a newer form? Let's make it by women!"

That's not the point. In fact that's the opposite of the point. It's not about 'being by women', it's about being by women and apolitical. Important difference there. This is the ladies roundly rejecting the messages of misandric hate which have sadly so come to characterise the involvement of women in our hobby lately, at least in some very vocal circles.

Quote from: Rincewind1;660340*running a horror/RPG convention with a strong Lovecraftian overtone, in a place decorated to look like insane asylum slash Silent Hill Hospital.

Count me in! A little trick I learned to save money, if you can't afford a dry ice machine turn the heat on downstairs and leave the windows open upstairs, then set the smoke machine at the top of the stairs, it flows down like a waterfall. Of course this only works in cold seasons.

Rincewind1 · June 05, 2013, 08:37:08 PM

Quote from: The Traveller;660344That's not the point. In fact that's the opposite of the point. It's not about 'being by women', it's about being by women and apolitical. Important difference there. This is the ladies roundly rejecting the messages of misandric hate which have sadly so come to characterise the involvement of women in our hobby lately, at least in some very vocal circles.
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Fair enough, as I said, I'm a bitter cynic, so I prefer the marketing angle ;p. None the less, I wish them luck.

QuoteCount me in! A little trick I learned to save money, if you can't afford a dry ice machine turn the heat on downstairs and leave the windows open upstairs, then set the smoke machine at the top of the stairs, it flows down like a waterfall. Of course this only works in cold seasons.

Sure, if I ever get around to organising it in the next few years ;p. Since you live in a real country and not post - USSR nightmare, weekend in Polackland is peanuts anyway if you're paying in Euros .

Sacrosanct · June 05, 2013, 08:39:14 PM

Quote from: The Traveller;660338To thumb their noses at the politicisers.

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Yeah, with the recent hubbub with Maladicta or WFT her name is, I can see why they would feel the need to point out that they're just regular gamer women without an agenda.

Dana · June 05, 2013, 08:45:14 PM

Quote from: The Traveller;660344This is the ladies roundly rejecting the messages of misandric hate which have sadly so come to characterise the involvement of women in our hobby lately, at least in some very vocal circles.

I think the stuff that has gone on is both misandric and misogynistic. It's a narrow, fucked-up worldview that's more about hate and exclusion than anything else.

Some years ago, I used to do the whole Internet ragefest/hateparty thing, and I've come to realize just what a fucking waste of time they are, at best, and how they can actually be much, much worse, for the participants as well as anyone they target. I'm not a big person for regrets about much of anything, but I actually do regret the energy and time I spent that way. I suspect a number of folks who've been fully embroiled in these gender/sexism flame wars over the past couple of years may one day wish they hadn't pissed away so much time on that stuff.

Rincewind1 · June 05, 2013, 08:52:44 PM

Quote from: Dana;660357I think the stuff that has gone on is both misandric and misogynistic. It's a narrow, fucked-up worldview that's more about hate and exclusion than anything else.

Some years ago, I used to do the whole Internet ragefest/hateparty thing, and I've come to realize just what a fucking waste of time they are, at best, and how they can actually be much, much worse, for the participants as well as anyone they target. I'm not a big person for regrets about much of anything, but I actually do regret the energy and time I spent that way. I suspect a number of folks who've been fully embroiled in these gender/sexism flame wars over the past couple of years may one day wish they hadn't pissed away so much time on that stuff.

It is because they are (I mean both SJWs and the ultraconservaties) bigots. And I mean as in the most ancient meaning of that word, namely the legendary Rollo, an old pagan and a man who either donated most of his money or ordered 100 Catholic priests hanged on his death (sources differ), refusing to bow down and kiss Charles the Fat foot, because, by God, he won't (after a few days of being baptised, none the less). They are using social causes as an excuse to justify their own spite, despite often not really believing in them, or being such neophytes it's a laughable endeavour.

I like reading such ragefests though. They are like empty calories you don't get fat on.

The Traveller · June 05, 2013, 09:00:12 PM

Quote from: Dana;660357I I'm not a big person for regrets about much of anything, but I actually do regret the energy and time I spent that way. I suspect a number of folks who've been fully embroiled in these gender/sexism flame wars over the past couple of years may one day wish they hadn't pissed away so much time on that stuff.

Well, there's not a one of us can claim any different in one way or another. The most important thing is that a line gets drawn under it, and I'm happy to support anyone working towards that end.

Quote from: Rincewind1;660351Sure, if I ever get around to organising it in the next few years ;p. Since you live in a real country and not post - USSR nightmare, weekend in Polackland is peanuts anyway if you're paying in Euros .

I'll bring the smoke machine but you're still buying the drinks ya bastard.

Rincewind1 · June 05, 2013, 09:03:28 PM

Quote from: The Traveller;660365I'll bring the smoke machine but you're still buying the drinks ya bastard.

Of course, being sober at RPG/Literature conventions is something I don't practice. We only need a Russian or a Scotsman more and we can be some kind of a bar joke.

everloss · June 05, 2013, 09:09:48 PM

Quote from: Brad;660194Seriously, who gives a fuck? If girls want to play rpgs, play rpgs...why do they need a special con?

Women do not need a gaming convention. But the fact is, there are a lot of douchebag dudes out there who find great pleasure in doing everything they possibly can to eliminate women from the hobby.

And even if that weren't true, why are you so pissed off that there are women who want to have a convention?

RPGPundit · June 06, 2013, 03:30:13 AM

Quote from: Brad;660265The fact that they're promoting it as "run by women" means it's more political than they'd like to admit and implies they feel somewhat marginalized. It's ENTIRELY possible you are correct and none of them feel that way whatsoever, but sorry, you can't identify yourself as a minority group then wonder when someone questions your motives.

Dude, you're really really coming across as someone who hasn't actually looked into this.

RPGPundit · June 06, 2013, 03:37:22 AM

In other news, the organizer of the Con specifically singled out theRPGsite in thanking us for our interest and support; apparently my post got her a huge number of views and offers from publishers.

So, well done all!

RPGPundit

J Arcane · June 06, 2013, 04:13:17 AM

I've contributed some PDFs as well for prizes, as well as offered to supply coupon codes for virtual swag.

Seems like a cool thing to me. Some dudes just get pissed when the womenfolk get all uppity.

One Horse Town · June 06, 2013, 05:52:57 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit;660460In other news, the organizer of the Con specifically singled out theRPGsite in thanking us for our interest and support; apparently my post got her a huge number of views and offers from publishers.

So, well done all!

RPGPundit

Where's all that happened?

Imperator · June 06, 2013, 06:11:56 AM

I think is a great idea and I wish them a huge success

Zachary The First · June 06, 2013, 06:53:19 AM

I think this is very awesome, especially since it seems geared towards actual gaming.