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Torchbearer: dungeon exploring and survival simulation

Started by silva, April 24, 2013, 07:54:04 PM

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Mistwell

#495
May 03, 2013, 05:59:44 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;651798Benoist already asked that people stop with the politics. If you want to discuss that stuff either open a thread in Pundit's subforum, where it will sink or swim on his judgment, or go to rpg.net.

Is that in response to me posting a small section of a video that explains the benefits of playing devil's advocate, because there tangentially happens to be politics also in the video?

Rincewind1

#496
May 03, 2013, 06:06:43 PM
Quote from: Mistwell;651800Is that in response to me posting a small section of a video that explains the benefits of playing devil's advocate, because there tangentially happens to be politics also in the video?

I think it's in general response of the politicisation of this thread. We've been laying it pretty thick here.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Bedrockbrendan

#497
May 03, 2013, 06:08:59 PM
Quote from: Mistwell;651800Is that in response to me posting a small section of a video that explains the benefits of playing devil's advocate, because there tangentially happens to be politics also in the video?

no, it wasn't.

jeff37923

#498
May 03, 2013, 07:36:37 PM
Did I not say, ditch the armor and lance?
"Meh."

Rincewind1

#499
May 03, 2013, 07:41:20 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;651809Did I not say, ditch the armor and lance?

Can't say precisely why, but I am somewhat reminded of The Knight in Rusty Armour.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

crkrueger

#500
May 03, 2013, 08:09:21 PM
If the tabletop RPG scene is so worthless economically, who bought 5.3 million dollars worth of Reaper figures and Dwarven Forge dungeon tiles?
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Rincewind1

#501
May 03, 2013, 08:11:05 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;651818If the tabletop RPG scene is so worthless economically, who bought 5.3 million dollars worth of Reaper figures and Dwarven Forge dungeon tiles?

I think the myth of the glory days of TSR mostly causes this view.
Furthermore, I consider that  This is Why We Don\'t Like You thread should be closed

Black Vulmea

#502
May 03, 2013, 09:32:02 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;651818If the tabletop RPG scene is so worthless economically, who bought 5.3 million dollars worth of Reaper figures and Dwarven Forge dungeon tiles?
Wargamers playing Warhammer and Warlord.
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Spinachcat

#503
May 03, 2013, 11:21:36 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;651818If the tabletop RPG scene is so worthless economically, who bought 5.3 million dollars worth of Reaper figures and Dwarven Forge dungeon tiles?

Good question!

I play Warhammer and I don't see people using non-GW figs very often and the dungeon tiles aren't usable in Warhammer Fantasy Battles, unless you are playing Mordheim (or other squad level skirmish game) and thats a small subset of the WFB crowd.

So I am betting most of that 5M came from RPGers.

apparition13

#504
May 04, 2013, 02:05:56 AM
Quote from: The TravellerSo what you're saying is that innovators don't make money, innovators make money.

I see.
Innovator 1 (the creative type) comes up with an idea for a product, but it goes nowhere. Innovator 2 (the entrepreneurial type with business acumen) steals the idea and makes a mint. Tl, dr: it's the guys riding the coattails who make the money.
 

The Traveller

#505
May 04, 2013, 02:34:07 AM
Quote from: apparition13;651865Innovator 1 (the creative type) comes up with an idea for a product, but it goes nowhere. Innovator 2 (the entrepreneurial type with business acumen) steals the idea and makes a mint. Tl, dr: it's the guys riding the coattails who make the money.
So you think crane is going to earn more than WotC from this?
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Kyle Aaron

#506
May 04, 2013, 04:55:15 AM
Is there a reason we're giving free publicity to someone who has contempt for gamers?
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Anon Adderlan

#507
May 04, 2013, 04:57:42 AM
WOW, 50 PAGES ALREADY?!? You people must really love this game :)

I'd love to troll it but I'm pressed for time. Can anyone sum things up?

Spinachcat

#508
May 04, 2013, 05:26:45 AM
Quote from: Anon Adderlan;651884Can anyone sum things up?

Luke Crane is a poo poo head, but he has mad marketing skillz.

He has taken a cool idea for a boardgame and made what sounds like a lame RPG out of some strange love/hate/wank/spank for Classic D&D.

One Horse Town

#509
May 04, 2013, 05:52:18 AM
Except he didn't write it.
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