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How did I miss this? DRAGON Archived online for free...

Started by colwebbsfmc, February 21, 2013, 12:13:32 PM

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Mistwell

#30
February 25, 2013, 03:23:35 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;631712Aren't you a lawyer?  Seems a bit odd to me that a lawyer would encourage illegal activity as long as you don't make a big fuss about it to draw attention.

Why?

talysman

#31
February 25, 2013, 04:18:36 PM
Quote from: Mistwell;631707This is how I view this thread:

colwebbsfmc: "Psst.  I found a pot of gold, and I am sharing it with everyone, as long as I don't get in trouble for it."
"Bunch of people: "Cool, thanks!"
RPGPunditCop: "As long as you're cool about it, I'll look the other way"
SJBenoist: "Hey EVERYONE, HE FOUND A POT OF GOLD, AND IT'S TOTALLY ILLEGAL!"
jhkim: "Yeah, TOTALLY ILLEGAL GOLD RIGHT OVER THERE!"
RPGPunditCop: "I said be cool guys"
talysman: "IT'S SO TOTALLY ILLEGAL OH MY GOD, LOOK OVER HERE, ILLEGAL GOLD!"
Mistwell: "Shut the fuck up about it already guys!"
Daddy Warpig: "YES I VERIFIED IT'S ILLEGAL GOLD!"
Lynn: "TOTALLY ILLEGAL GOLD"
talysman: "YEAH LET ME EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHICH LAWS THIS BREAKS".
You forgot:
Mistwell: NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO ME ME ME! SO I WILL POST A BIG PICTURE!

Mistwell

#32
February 25, 2013, 04:28:13 PM
Quote from: talysman;631734You forgot:
Mistwell: NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO ME ME ME! SO I WILL POST A BIG PICTURE!

I don't control the size of the picture.  Most vBulletin systems do that for you.  This one is a tad old and does not have that mod installed.  So, worst you could say is I am too lazy to see what it looks like once posted, then go back and edit it by reformatting the picture in a secondary picture server. That is, unless someone I like asks me to, like Benoist :)  That said, if you really would prefer a smaller picture, all you have to do is ask nicely and I will reformat it much smaller.  The point of the picture was not to be big.

The Traveller

#33
February 25, 2013, 05:32:55 PM
Still no Suppressed Transmissions. :(

Quote from: Mistwell;631707This is how I view this thread:

colwebbsfmc: "Psst.  I found a pot of gold, and I am sharing it with everyone, as long as I don't get in trouble for it."
"Bunch of people: "Cool, thanks!"
RPGPunditCop: "As long as you're cool about it, I'll look the other way"
SJBenoist: "Hey EVERYONE, HE FOUND A POT OF GOLD, AND IT'S TOTALLY ILLEGAL!"
jhkim: "Yeah, TOTALLY ILLEGAL GOLD RIGHT OVER THERE!"
RPGPunditCop: "I said be cool guys"
talysman: "IT'S SO TOTALLY ILLEGAL OH MY GOD, LOOK OVER HERE, ILLEGAL GOLD!"
Mistwell: "Shut the fuck up about it already guys!"
Daddy Warpig: "YES I VERIFIED IT'S ILLEGAL GOLD!"
Lynn: "TOTALLY ILLEGAL GOLD"
talysman: "YEAH LET ME EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHICH LAWS THIS BREAKS".

Fucking nerds, high intelligence, low wisdom, thinking showing off their knowledge is more important than leaving well enough alone!
Ah sure feck it, Wizards would be off their heads to crack down on this, most of it is for unsupported game systems anyway. There comes a time when karma is more important than IP you'll never make a red cent off anyway.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
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SJBenoist

#34
February 25, 2013, 05:37:13 PM
Quote from: talysman;631734You forgot:
Mistwell: NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO ME ME ME! SO I WILL POST A BIG PICTURE!

Lol, beat me to it.

thedungeondelver

#35
February 25, 2013, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: The Traveller;631744Still no Suppressed Transmissions. :(


Ah sure feck it, Wizards would be off their heads to crack down on this, most of it is for unsupported game systems anyway. There comes a time when karma is more important than IP you'll never make a red cent off anyway.

See "Games Workshop" versus "Space Marine".
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Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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Sacrosanct

#36
February 25, 2013, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: Mistwell;631722Why?

Seriously?
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

The Traveller

#37
February 25, 2013, 06:56:21 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;631760See "Games Workshop" versus "Space Marine".
There's still plenty of mileage in Space Marine though, not to excuse the shenanigans. How much is anyone ever going to pay for an article on the Ecology of the Behir as interpreted by 2e?
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

Endless Flight

#38
February 25, 2013, 07:03:49 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;631762Seriously?

It may have been a lawyer who originally uploaded those to the Internet Archive. :D

RPGPundit

#39
February 26, 2013, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Piestrio;631518Since this thread has the go ahead to exist here are links to all the files, sorted by file type (pdf, epub, txt, mobi, etc...) and issue.

Should be easier to find what you want (or just copy all the links into a D/L manager and save a lot of hassle)

-link removed-

PDFs start at line 1533

I gave the goahead to link to the Internet Archive. Not to start posting filehosting stuff which may or may not have the same materials.

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Mistwell

#40
February 26, 2013, 05:09:13 PM Last Edit: February 26, 2013, 05:23:20 PM by Mistwell
Quote from: Sacrosanct;631762Seriously?

Yes, seriously.  What's your line of thinking?

Spinachcat

#41
February 26, 2013, 05:27:02 PM
I'm gonna trust that Archive.org knows what they are doing.

And thank them for it.

Sacrosanct

#42
February 26, 2013, 05:27:18 PM
Quote from: Mistwell;632140Yes, seriously.  What's your line of thinking?  What is it about someone being a lawyer that makes you think they encourage lawful behavior, even when the unlawful behavior would be harmless and useful and go unnoticed, amongst their hobby friends more than anyone else? I thought it an odd statement. I mean, the popular joke is that lawyers are the least ethical professionals in society next to politicians, and yet you hold them to a higher standard than others, so I trying to understand your thinking in saying that.

OH, I don't know.  Maybe because everyone else doesn't take an oath.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Mistwell

#43
February 26, 2013, 06:13:33 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;632147OH, I don't know.  Maybe because everyone else doesn't take an oath.

You take an oath to support the Constitution.  Do you see "Cool, my peers can download old issues of Dragon which are no longer published, and which WOTC doesn't seem to care about anymore, so they can improve their games and have more fun and add to discussions" as "not supporting the Constitution"? I don't.

I don't torrent stuff, I don't encourage people to download stuff that is currently being published/sold, but this seems pretty harmless to me.  And I don't see that as a threat to our Constitution.

Sacrosanct

#44
February 26, 2013, 06:21:34 PM
Quote from: Mistwell;632178You take an oath to support the Constitution.  Do you see "Cool, my peers can download old issues of Dragon which are no longer published, and which WOTC doesn't seem to care about anymore, so they can improve their games and have more fun and add to discussions" as "not supporting the Constitution"? I don't.

I don't torrent stuff, I don't encourage people to download stuff that is currently being published/sold, but this seems pretty harmless to me.  And I don't see that as a threat to our Constitution.

The oath implies pretty strongly a code of ethics, if not outright spelled out (depending on state).  Encouraging others to violate copyright law isn't exactly considered "upholding a moral and ethical state of behavior" as defined by the Dominant View.

so yeah, I find it a bit surprising.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.
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