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How did I miss this? DRAGON Archived online for free...

Started by colwebbsfmc, February 21, 2013, 12:13:32 PM

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colwebbsfmc

February 21, 2013, 12:13:32 PM
http://archive.org/details/dragon_magazine

  Did I totally miss an announcement somewhere?  Holy crap, this is awesome.  I already had the Issues 1-250 CD-ROMs, but this... How are they getting around the Knights of the Dinner Table BS?  Or is it because this is for SCIENCE!!! ?
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Piestrio

#2
February 21, 2013, 12:30:14 PM
Quote from: estar;630531Obviously a mistake on their part.

One I will be taking full advantage of :)
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thedungeondelver

#3
February 21, 2013, 12:31:57 PM
I have the PDF resources but this is neat.  Thanks!

(I've a feeling this will come down soon enough...)
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RPGPundit

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February 22, 2013, 03:57:02 PM
Is this an official site? Is it legal?
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February 22, 2013, 04:16:21 PM Last Edit: February 22, 2013, 04:44:33 PM by Endless Flight
It's the Internet Archive. Their goal is to catalog the history of the internet. They've been crawling websites for years and caching them. It's actually a blessing. Many owners discontinue their sites for various reasons, but the IA sometimes (fingers crossed) has a copy of them. You can search for them on the Wayback Machine.

For instance, here's a snapshot of TheRPGSite on Aug 12, 2006.

They do the same thing with books, images, etc. I think it's legal or they would have been shut down years ago.

J Arcane

#6
February 22, 2013, 05:01:58 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;631082Is this an official site? Is it legal?

In theory everything on archive.org is supposed to be public domain or fair use backups.

In practice a lot of shit winds up in the media archive that's just straight up pirated, and no one's bothered to challenge it yet.
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SJBenoist

#7
February 22, 2013, 05:11:12 PM
Chances are it's all illegal.

They also have other gaming mags posted, like Ares, Polyhedron, and others.

thedungeondelver

#8
February 22, 2013, 06:15:44 PM
Even if it isn't illegal, all WotC has to do is send an official looking letter and that's the end of that.  Chilling effect and so forth.
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JeremyR

#9
February 22, 2013, 06:29:47 PM
OTOH, if they were pirated recent movies (or sports)), we'd see a full military style raid on their HQ like that file sharing thing in New Zealand whose name escapes me.

But apparently some of these Dragons are being sold by Paizo still (I guess the later ones they produced). It's one thing for books and magazines that are not being sold and long out of print to go up on an archive, regardless of the laws, and stuff that companies themselves have put into electronic form and are selling.

thedungeondelver

#10
February 22, 2013, 06:41:31 PM
I'd like to see this defended under Fair Use but unfortunately, I think there Ain't No Way. :P
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Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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elfandghost

#11
February 22, 2013, 06:54:11 PM
Reading some of those brings back found memories. I used to have the local newsagent order it (along with White Dwarf) and my grandparents would pick it up.

Sigh. I wish Wizards would release a paper version of Dragon/Dungeon again. Not going to happen, but still they should.
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jhkim

#12
February 22, 2013, 07:05:22 PM
The Internet Archive has been around for a while and is incredibly useful.  

They are almost certainly illegal under the ridiculous current copyright laws, but I think they get by in that they don't deliberately target any content, are for research purposes, and take stuff down whenever anyone asks.

Bloody Stupid Johnson

#13
February 22, 2013, 07:11:42 PM
Quote from: elfandghost;631151Reading some of those brings back found memories. I used to have the local newsagent order it (along with White Dwarf) and my grandparents would pick it up.
 
Sigh. I wish Wizards would release a paper version of Dragon/Dungeon again. Not going to happen, but still they should.

Use to love those, though I didn't preorder, just picked up back issues that looked interesting at the gaming store. These days, I'd be happy with a .pdf magazine from Paizo, wouldn't touch anything from Wizards.

The Traveller

#14
February 22, 2013, 07:13:39 PM
Wizards should release those for free full stop, most of the articles are about unsupported game systems anyway.

Anyone remember the forum?

Ye gods we used to have arguments in a printed publication!

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