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Have the Drow been ruined?

Started by RPGPundit, December 27, 2012, 03:22:49 PM

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Bill

Quote from: jibbajibba;613122I was being tongue in cheek .... but surely even a pre-pubescent 11 year old knows that if a book is set in, the Forgetten Realms Universe, the Star Trek Universe, the Star Wars Universe, the Universe it is drivel. My mum taught me few things but that was number 3.

Damn. I am more than 4 times that age, and I find enjoyment in drivel.

My mom called sci fi 'That far out stuff'

Of course, every sci fi and fantasy novel I gave her to read she enjoyed.

Reckall

My mom loved sci-fi so much that she brought me to see "Alien" when I was 9, saying "It is just like Space 1999!" I remember being scared by the human spaceship itself even before the rest of the stuff happened.
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Quote from: Reckall;613209My mom loved sci-fi so much that she brought me to see "Alien" when I was 9, saying "It is just like Space 1999!" I remember being scared by the human spaceship itself even before the rest of the stuff happened.

Damn.  I can relate.  Only instead of Alien, for me it was John Carpenter's The Thing, about the same age.  I don't know what my dad was thinking.  I do remember my mom getting all pissed off at him :)
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Quote from: Premier;613164Just to set the record straight, I was referring to Mel Brooks.
I'm . . . disappointed.
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Quote from: Reckall;613209My mom loved sci-fi so much that she brought me to see "Alien" when I was 9, saying "It is just like Space 1999!"

That explains why it was so easy to knock Ash's head off.  Clearly basement budget.

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jibbajibba

Quote from: Bill;613174Damn. I am more than 4 times that age, and I find enjoyment in drivel.

My mom called sci fi 'That far out stuff'

Of course, every sci fi and fantasy novel I gave her to read she enjoyed.

My mum also loved Scifi and read a book a day which is why I now have about 4000 books a lot of which are junk scifi but at least they are LeGuinn, Asimov, Pohl, Doc Smith and Dick junk Scifi. Also fantasy novels by the bucket and when I was sorting them all out I was sorry to say even a handful of D&D books .... (and oddly 3 complete sets of Covenant) I even tried to read a D&D book (one of the Dragon Lance ones) ... terrible.

You have to remember after she retired my mum ran a massive D&D world with about 3 concurrant groups of 6-10 players after I introduced her to D&D as a way to get over agrophobia and clinical depression.... and my sister, now an English teacher, lists her main act of teen rebellion as not reading the Lord of the Rings. So perhaps my experience differs somewhat from other posters :)
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In my Albion game, rather than bothering with anything like Drow, I just made my full-blooded elves into terrifying motherfuckers.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;613679In my Albion game, rather than bothering with anything like Drow, I just made my full-blooded elves into terrifying motherfuckers.

RPGPundit

Which if you're taking from Sidhe rather than Tolkien-Elves, is not inappropriate.

JG
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Bill

Quote from: RPGPundit;613679In my Albion game, rather than bothering with anything like Drow, I just made my full-blooded elves into terrifying motherfuckers.

RPGPundit

I do this in my personal dnd setting. Elves should be terrifying in my opinion.

I still have drow, and they are no better, but they pretend to be.

Doctor Jest

Quote from: RPGPundit;611994Let's start with the assumption that the Drow as Gary Gygax made them were once cool.  Are they now ruined beyond redemption, due to the mistreatment of them in the FR and especially that emo mary-sue Drzzt?

Yes.

Black Vulmea

Quote from: RPGPundit;613679In my Albion game, rather than bothering with anything like Drow, I just made my full-blooded elves into terrifying motherfuckers.
I like elves to be like the pharisees of Three Hearts and Three Lions.
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Bill

Quote from: Doctor Jest;613778Yes.

Are there any Drizzt defenders out there?

Someone must like the character.

The Butcher

Quote from: RPGPundit;613679In my Albion game, rather than bothering with anything like Drow, I just made my full-blooded elves into terrifying motherfuckers.

RPGPundit

So do I, and at least a couple of other people. I usually describe mine as Moorcock's Melnibonéans dressed up as Tolkien's Elves.

Doctor Jest

Quote from: The Butcher;613798So do I, and at least a couple of other people. I usually describe mine as Moorcock's Melnibonéans dressed up as Tolkien's Elves.

Dark Elves in Warhammer Fantasy are like this, as well.

TristramEvans

Quote from: Bill;613796Are there any Drizzt defenders out there?

Someone must like the character.

I don't think there's that many adolescants posting here.