Quote from: RPGPundit;610263Can't say I care much for Sin City, though. Never got the appeal.

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The movie is stylistically quite beautiful and well-paced.

The stories themselves and the comics are the standard juvenile, sexist, Miller crap that people thought was so edgy in the 80s, but really is just the adolescent macho fantasies of a socially maladjusted manboy.

Quote from: TristramEvans;610432The stories themselves and the comics are the standard juvenile, sexist, Miller crap that people thought was so edgy in the 80s, but really is just the adolescent macho fantasies of a socially maladjusted manboy.

I've been reading my way through them and I think there's going on than that. I'm usually not one for he-man action movies or strip clubs. I'm not big on the action-whore aspect of some of the stories but there's a big dark emptiness at the heart of it (so far) that I'm liking... similar to what I get out of Mickey Spillane (who is also usually consigned to the trash heap). But with surreal(?) Lynchian stuff on the outer edges. Black nihilistic ice cream in a cone shaped like a lizard.
I'm guessing a lot of that is brought across by the artwork, which is a lot less polished than I'd expected - that being a good thing.

Quote from: TristramEvans;610432The movie is stylistically quite beautiful and well-paced.

I didn't find it to be either.

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Rosario Dawson was fuckin' hot.

JG

I've wanted to run a Sin City game for some time now, but can never quite get a rules set that does it for me. I've looked at Savage Worlds, but am not much of a fan of those rules. You might look at Amazing Adventures, a somewhat new pulp system based on Castles & Crusades and put out by Troll Lord Games. This looks like it will fit my own style of play best (so far).

Getting the right atmosphere also seems to be tricky. I read a lot of Raymond Chandler and other pulp detective books, but Sin City has to be a lot darker than that and I'm not sure my players are willing to go there. They seem to take any setting I present and make it more comedic, and you need to have players willing to follow the style of the setting in order to pull it off.

To me Sin City comes off as comedic to begin with; I swear that if I didn't explicitly know its not the intention of the author, I'd have to assume its a farce/parody of noir.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;612237To me Sin City comes off as comedic to begin with; I swear that if I didn't explicitly know its not the intention of the author, I'd have to assume its a farce/parody of noir.

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If it comes off that way, it could be because Frank Miller's explicit intentions are betrayed by his actions.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;610696I didn't find it to be either.

Different strokes for different folks and all, but I found the film visually quite beautiful. It actually wasn't so bad either until they got to the Dwight storyline, where the utter stupidity and childish macho-fantasy really bled through with some utterly ridiculous dialogue and plot contrivances.

Quote from: James Gillen;612403If it comes off that way, it could be because Frank Miller's explicit intentions are betrayed by his actions.

JG

Touche.

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