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Steampunk distortions

Started by BillDowns, December 11, 2012, 09:14:01 AM

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The Traveller

Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;607938Maybe I should do that cosplay as a trade unionist, Ellis Island person who goes onto greatness, or something that's both historically accurate and entertaining.
Ha, right as if you'd ever get invited to parties. Its a lonely life, being a tedious one-track-minded communist entryist. Seriously take that crap to the international worker or wherever, this is a gaming board.
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misterguignol

Quote from: Simlasa;607963How did people start assuming Frankenstein's monster was born of electricity? I don't recall any mention of it in the book.

There is mention of Galvinism in the book.  Shelley was quite interested in that just prior to writing the seed of Frankenstein in 1816.

Kaiu Keiichi

Quote from: The Traveller;607964Ha, right as if you'd ever get invited to parties. Its a lonely life, being a tedious one-track-minded communist entryist. Seriously take that crap to the international worker or wherever, this is a gaming board.

No, let's continue the discussion.  I think it's something you need more engagement on. If not, just ignore my content.

It's media, it's stuff, it's what I game at my table, it's important.

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I think the steampunk idiocy may have distorted some NERDS' views of real history, sure.  But a great deal of nerds are very good at assuming they must know things just because they're nerds, as if its some kind of natural-born right that they must be smart, and don't actually have to read or learn or study anything seriously. Just any stupid shit that comes out of their mouth, they figure is probably true.

Seriously, the only thing worse than someone with no knowledge is someone with just a little bit of knowledge and a total lack of understanding of the vast abyss of things he doesn't actually know.

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Quote from: misterguignol;607978There is mention of Galvinism in the book.  Shelley was quite interested in that just prior to writing the seed of Frankenstein in 1816.
There's also Frankenstein's inspiration by the lightning hitting a tree. Still, it's not done in some remote castle in the midst of a lightning storm, it's in an apartment in a house in a city... there's no mention of electricity being directly involved in the process (just some cryptic references to a secret that will not be named)... and the whole lab seems relatively tiny. I was surprised by that, having seen the various movies that all feature huge sparking apparatus in enormous chambers.
Also that the building of the creature is not just a hand sewn to arm sewn to torso with heavy thread... the description in the book seemed more intricate... knitting new muscles and nerves and such from fundamental tissues. He's not just reanimating a corpse, he's building a new form from scratch. I was also struck by the explanation that the creature is a giant because he had no way to perform such techniques on a suitably small scale to keep it down to human-sized... and no skill (or consideration?) in making it appear like anything but a nightmarish monster.

Sorry, I love that book and hope someday someone might make a movie that's a bit more true to it.  
I'm happy to have sparky flesh golems in a steampunk game.
I might have liked our Deadlands games more if there'd been more of that sort of thing, and more political/moral quandries... vs. whatever the hell it was we were playing.

misterguignol

Quote from: Simlasa;608292Sorry, I love that book and hope someday someone might make a movie that's a bit more true to it.  

You and me both, friend.  (I teach the novel at least once a year.)

The Traveller

Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;608149I think it's something you need more engagement on.
You know nothing about me, and would probably be quite surprised at the very real (read:not slacktivism on the internet) measures I've been involved with in order to help deal with serious social issues, considerably beyond "giving at the office". In fact in different situations you'd have a lot of time for someone like me.

I choose not to bring it up because this isn't a suitable forum, as they say the problem with zealots is they will change neither their minds nor the topic. Or perhaps more appropriate in this case would be that term for people who can't differentiate between reality and fantasy, I forget was that psychotic or schizophrenic.

People come here to talk about games, so in the absence of overt neo-nazi fetishism or clear discussions about where reality and fantasy cross over, change the record. This pious "missionary among the savages" act was old and badly misplaced before you wheeled it out in the first place.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.