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Sacrosanct · September 16, 2012, 08:43:21 PM

Quote from: Skywalker;583097Where as fans of other editions will eagerly buy product they don't like?
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Of course not. But I haven't seen fans of other editions actively try to coordinate boycotts of other competing products. If WoTC forsakes 4e completely, I can see these people actively trying to sabotage 5e as much as they can. Might not have a big impact in the scope of things anyway, but it wouldn't surprise me to see them try it.

Skywalker · September 16, 2012, 08:50:00 PM

Quote from: Sacrosanct;583103Of course not. But I haven't seen fans of other editions actively try to coordinate boycotts of other competing products.

I have seen similar things when D&D went to 2e, 3e and 4e (hell, editions changes of many RPGs often cause groups to actively attack fans of new editions). Then again, I recall you saying on another thread that you had less unpleasant experiences than me with previous edition changes, so that may explain it

mcbobbo · September 17, 2012, 10:21:35 AM

Quote from: Skywalker;583105I have seen similar things when D&D went to 2e, 3e and 4e

Your definition of 'similar' may be wider than the one commonly used. Unless the alternate dimension you're from had internet in the 80's. Also I remember 2e being basically dead in the years leading up to the launch of 3e, because in my dimension TSR had ran it into the ground by 1997.

RPGPundit · September 18, 2012, 02:03:04 PM

Quote from: Sacrosanct;583103Of course not. But I haven't seen fans of other editions actively try to coordinate boycotts of other competing products. If WoTC forsakes 4e completely, I can see these people actively trying to sabotage 5e as much as they can. Might not have a big impact in the scope of things anyway, but it wouldn't surprise me to see them try it.

The people who would try to do that would do that anyways. There'll be nothing you can do to appease them short of not releasing a 5e.

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Skywalker · September 18, 2012, 04:09:00 PM

Quote from: mcbobbo;583186Your definition of 'similar' may be wider than the one commonly used. Unless the alternate dimension you're from had internet in the 80's. Also I remember 2e being basically dead in the years leading up to the launch of 3e, because in my dimension TSR had ran it into the ground by 1997.

I assumed that readers would automatically add context to the word "similar"

I encountered several 1e groups that were hostile and took active steps to try and stop people playing 2e when it was released. This including barring one GM from running 2e at a games club where 1e was prevalent. Also, the internet did exist when 3e came out and there was a strong anti-3e stance from some fans of older editions at the time.

The point is that the fans of last editions are always going to seem louder as their voices are more recent. If anything, advances in technology, such as the internet, are just going to amplify this as it enhances the ability to communicate. However, the phenomena is not new.

Skywalker · September 18, 2012, 04:11:58 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;583505The people who would try to do that would do that anyways. There'll be nothing you can do to appease them short of not releasing a 5e.

If they are whacked out enough to to try and sabotage 5e, I am guessing that the release of 5e will only fuel their anger. Passage of time will appease them more, along with the release of 6e

mcbobbo · September 19, 2012, 11:14:50 AM

Quote from: Skywalker;583522The point is that the fans of last editions are always going to seem louder as their voices are more recent. If anything, advances in technology, such as the internet, are just going to amplify this as it enhances the ability to communicate. However, the phenomena is not new.

I believe the amplification is key, but the forum even existing is crucial. In the 1e days feedback came from person-to-person contact, letters, and other low-bandwidth sources. So the magnitude of the input was on a different scale, and I think the difference is enough to make it its own phenomenon. Rather how the Model T is distinct from the buggy, even though they both have four wheels, use the same scale chassis, etc.