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Babylon 5

Started by The Traveller, June 13, 2012, 04:02:42 PM

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The Traveller

#60
July 17, 2012, 03:38:15 AM
Quote from: James Gillen;560979The Season 4 finale was a very deliberate homage to "A Canticle for Leibowitz".

JG
What was the disembodied eyeball on the shelf in the newlyweds bedroom an homage to?
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

jeff37923

#61
July 17, 2012, 03:54:39 AM
Quote from: The Traveller;560982What was the disembodied eyeball on the shelf in the newlyweds bedroom an homage to?

Peeping Toms.
"Meh."

The Traveller

#62
July 17, 2012, 04:20:57 AM
Quote from: jeff37923;560986Peeping Toms.
My first instinct was Larry Flynt, followed shortly by Sheridan declaring war on Narn after G'Kar's retirement plan is revealed.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

James Gillen

#63
July 18, 2012, 03:25:47 PM
Quote from: The Traveller;560982What was the disembodied eyeball on the shelf in the newlyweds bedroom an homage to?

The Drakh, IIRC.

JG
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Lynn

#64
July 18, 2012, 07:53:16 PM
Quote from: The Traveller;560826Brilliant last episode, really makes you think. Future archaeologists will probably sift through these and all other internet communications from the dawn of the information age, and try to analyse the posts. We'll be a fascinating glimpse of a time long gone. No doubt they'll even try to connect the online personas with the real people and build up a picture of life at the time like people do with ancient pottery today.

I am on the other side of the fence on that episode. I like how JMS eventually parallels the past and future with the fairy tale like retelling of the story of B5 on ruined Earth. On the other hand, I felt like revealing a master timeline like that boxes in future stories too much (without a JJ Abrams like alt reality).
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Ghost Whistler

#65
August 10, 2012, 07:59:17 AM
Apparently the world the humans are going to at the end of the episode is the Vorlon homeworld. Or something.
"Ghost Whistler" is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned). Parental death, alien battles and annihilated worlds.

The Traveller

#66
August 10, 2012, 09:11:13 PM
Ha! Crusade is also quite quotable

"I'm drowning in a sea of testosterone"
"That's okay, you have flotation devices"

PC is not this show's business. I'm a huge Gary "wears-collars-closed" Cole fan too, so its a win all round. Money well spent. Shame it never made it past one season.
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

jadrax

#67
August 10, 2012, 09:20:19 PM
Quote from: The Traveller;570180Money well spent. Shame it never made it past one season.

It was one of those shows that looked like it could have had promise, but was killed by to much interference from above.

Which should neatly bring you onto The Lost Tales (assuming you have done the films?)

Tahmoh

#68
August 10, 2012, 09:23:44 PM
You can blame burnout and network tampering for that.  Strazynski got abit carried away and ended up writing every script around season 3 of babylon 5 which eventually took its toll and this coupled with TNT execs making stupid demands whilst he was filming season 5 and crusade(they wanted more nudity and less scifi amongst other stupid things), so what was originally planned as a 22 episode first season got trimmed down to what we got as strazynski having had enough basically told TNT to go fuck themselves and took his toys and went home.  TNT would eventually change there minds about the nudity idea once the show started to air, but he had already wrapped the season and didnt want to work for them anymore(scifi channel eventually helped fund his last 2 babylon verse movies).

Tahmoh

#69
August 10, 2012, 09:24:40 PM
Quote from: jadrax;570183It was one of those shows that looked like it could have had promise, but was killed by to much interference from above.

Which should neatly bring you onto The Lost Tales (assuming you have done the films?)

Dont forget Legend of the Rangers(although maybe it should be forgetten lol).

jadrax

#70
August 10, 2012, 09:28:48 PM
Quote from: Broken-Serenity;570187Dont forget Legend of the Rangers(although maybe it should be forgetten lol).

Oh god, I totally had! And again it would be nice to see Traveller's views on it from a more modern perspective.

The Traveller

#71
August 10, 2012, 09:47:22 PM Last Edit: August 10, 2012, 09:50:19 PM by The Traveller
Quote from: jadrax;570183Which should neatly bring you onto The Lost Tales (assuming you have done the films?)
I haven't yet, there's a bewildering array of films once you get beyond the original series, apparently there's some dispute as to the chronological order of the movies? What should I watch next, and in what order?
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

Tahmoh

#72
August 10, 2012, 10:01:24 PM
Well beyond in the beginning and the pilot i think the others mostly slot into season 4 and 5 at random points, post series though only legend of the rangers and lost tales are important and Lost Tales is the ending of sorts being the most recent and probably last babylonverse movie(unless strazynski gets the itch again and finds funding for his long gestating telepath war movie trilogy).

jadrax

#73
August 10, 2012, 11:35:08 PM
Chronologically, *I think* it something like:
In the Beginning
The Gathering
Series 1
Series 2
Series 3
Series 4
Thirdspace (Actually takes place at some point in series 4, but no-one knows when)
Series 5
The River of Souls
A Call To Arms
Crusade
The Legend of the Rangers
The Lost Tales

- But as you did not do that, A Call To Arms is the prelude to Crusade so as you have just watched Crusade that might make sense to watch next.

Lynn

#74
August 11, 2012, 02:41:46 PM
Legend of the Rangers was awful. How sad considering that there were a lot of B5 fans (myself included) really hoping it would bring us a new series.

Lost Tales was a valiant effort, but the sets were gone and they tried to make up for a severe lack of budget with what I thought were over-scripted scenes.

The 'movies' were a real mix; mostly quite good, but River of Souls was about the worst thing Ive seen Martin Sheen in (how did that happen?).
Lynn Fredricks
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