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Call of Cthulhu 7th Edition Authors' Seminar

Started by Mikko Leho, July 24, 2012, 05:25:26 AM

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Mikko Leho

July 24, 2012, 05:25:26 AM
Recorded seminar about the upcoming 7th edition of CoC:

http://www.yog-sothoth.com/content/1105-Call-of-Cthulhu-7th-Edition-Authors-Seminar

So far the changes sound very good.

Piestrio

#1
July 24, 2012, 05:29:44 AM Last Edit: July 24, 2012, 05:50:33 AM by Piestrio
http://www.yog-sothoth.com/content/1105-Call-of-Cthulhu-7th-Edition-Authors-Seminar

Some sort of bullshit "luck" resource.

You can reroll a roll for "bigger consequences" (story-thinking bullshit there).

The Resistance Table is gone.

"fundamental rules changes"



Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

Bonus: "Zeeee game remains zee same!" ugh.

Bonus2: oh also "connections" that "refresh luck" and "encapsulate the character concept" *weeps*
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Piestrio

#2
July 24, 2012, 05:53:58 AM
I could only listen to half before I wanted to vomit.
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Ghost Whistler

#3
July 24, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
Why is that 'story-thinking bullshit' idea bad?

YMMV may vary as to whether we need a new set of rules, or whether you even want a new set of rules.

But why is this idea bad?
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#4
July 24, 2012, 07:05:49 AM
There are what, half a dozen previous version of CoC so I'm not surprised they are trying something different from what has gone before. Time (and sales, or lack of) will tell if it worked I guess. For everyone else (die hard fans) they have their older versions.

Did Call of Cthulu ever have a version different enough to spark an 'edition war' like certain other games, or has it been a more gentle path of revision and tweaking (like Tunnels and Trolls, onto version 7.5 and 8th upcoming)?

The Traveller

#5
July 24, 2012, 07:50:54 AM
Quote from: Piestrio;563658Some sort of bullshit "luck" resource.
Luck stats can work okay as long as you keep them to like two or three uses (ever), make them expensive, and give them consequences for failure on a seperate fortune roll. I don't see a problem as far as that goes. The last card up your sleeve, sort of thing, for PCs only.

Players influencing the background events with meta discussion or buckets of fate points being used trivially, now that's bullshit.
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jadrax

#6
July 24, 2012, 07:57:37 AM
As I understand it this is some people talking about the ideas they have submitted to Chaosium, and not something that has actually been approved?

danskmacabre

#7
July 24, 2012, 08:55:11 AM
That mobile phone interference was really irritating

DKChannelBoredom

#8
July 24, 2012, 10:00:05 AM
Well, if it ain't broken don't fix it... but don't publish it again as a new edition either. So after them doing the, pretty much, same rulebook for 4th, 5th and 6th edition, I don't mind them trying something new and rocking the boat. No matter what, it's hardly likely that any new version of the CoC rules will ever challenge 5th Edition as my favorite version of the game.
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monkeyfaceratboy

#9
July 24, 2012, 12:28:36 PM
Anyone seen this?

http://theunspeakableoath.com/home/?p=1024

Lots of interesting ideas in here, but I'm not sure how they'll all play out.

beeber

#10
July 24, 2012, 12:34:42 PM
i like the "push" thing.  change of stats to percentiles is fine.  i'm mixed on the whole "luck" bit for now.  

since backwards compatibility is a huge thing, i trust chaosium to make the right calls in the end.  and if i end up not liking it, there's always my trusty 3e games workshop hardcover, which works just fine :)

Scott Dorward

#11
July 24, 2012, 12:43:37 PM
Quote from: jadrax;563676As I understand it this is some people talking about the ideas they have submitted to Chaosium, and not something that has actually been approved?
No, this is based on the new rules set commissioned by Chaosium. The completed manuscript was submitted three months ago.

jadrax

#12
July 24, 2012, 01:05:03 PM
Quote from: Scott Dorward;563786No, this is based on the new rules set commissioned by Chaosium. The completed manuscript was submitted three months ago.

So 'Yes' then. Commissioned and Submitted != Approved.

Written summer of the interview at The Unspeakable Oath.

crkrueger

#13
July 24, 2012, 01:20:06 PM
Quote from: Part of the Summary at The Unspeakable OathImportantly, the 7th Edition rules call on the Keeper and the players to be explicit about what a skill roll means and what will be the consequences for succeeding or failing. That's usually good advice in Call of Cthulhu, but it's crucial in the system Mike and Paul have built.

In their system a player can "push" a failed skill or characteristic roll, getting a chance to try again by agreeing to more dire consequences for failure. If you push a skill, failing the retry won't just mean you don't get what you want, it means you also might encounter some new threat or dangerous trouble. Player-Keeper communication is key when the players have to decide whether it's worth pushing a failed roll.

That's what we needed, the Forgeite CoC7 to go along with D&D4 and WFRP3.
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Benoist

#14
July 24, 2012, 01:33:08 PM
Well. Thanks for changing the game, assholes.
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