Quote from: Ghost Whistler;556373The minute you shuffle everything to a lower traffic explicitly non-rpg forum you traduce it, you send out a message that it's not worthy of discussion.

What the christ, and as a Buddhist I don't say that lightly, I have a bigass thread going on right now about exploring some unusual concepts in RPGs that hasn't been shuffled anywhere. If you want to call a different game entirely an innovative RPG, there's no hope for you. And you're not shy about dishing out the abuse when it suits you either.

Of course it's a storygame.

Vincent Baker.

Lumpley.

Come on.

Bad trees produce bad fruit.

Quote from: The Traveller;556376What the christ, and as a Buddhist I don't say that lightly, I have a bigass thread going on right now about exploring some unusual concepts in RPGs that hasn't been shuffled anywhere.

Good, that's precisely the point: I don't want threads shuffled anywhere unless it is absolutely obvious (discussing Magic the Gathering belongs in the other games forum quite clearly).

I like "traduce". It's a good word. It's an attitude I hate.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;556373I'm asking you to knock the abuse off, it isn't required, and it isn't welcome. Spare me the holier than thou attitude.

No.

See, this is the problem with you. Every time something isn't exactly what you want, you start a thread and bitch and whine about it. You never actually try to solve your own problems. You never learn from your mistakes. You just rush in and do the same thing, over and over again, expecting that this time the world will have magically rearranged itself to suit you.

If you want change, fine. Be your damn change. Contact FFG. Apply to playtest their games. Don't buy the AAA multiplayer shooters when you know you hate AAA games and multiplayer shooters. If you want to discuss innovations in RPG's, fine. Do so.  But this isn't the site for aimless theorising and whining. Refine your ideas, prove they make games better at the table, than bring it back here and people will listen.

I actually agree that the magical storygame/rpg line is going to drive some people away from this forum, who may see the banner ad and want to post somewhere other than RPGnet. Fine. They aren't the right people for here. They'll be happier posting elsewhere.

This site might not be perfect, but there are many worse.

Quote from: 1989;556380Of course it's a storygame.

Vincent Baker.

Lumpley.

Come on.

Bad trees produce bad fruit.

They're just games, they don't bite. If you don't like them don't play them. If you don't want to discuss them and you want this to be a place free from those discussions then ignore the people that do choose to do so. Simples.

I'm getting tired of the abuse too. You fuckers need to pick up the pace.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;556354I'm getting a little tired of the abuse.

Then shut the fuck up and stop being a whiny cunt.  You go over this crap whenever something gets moved, and now you're pissed because Pundit.  Just go rub a few out, punch a chav, do whatever.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;556388They're just games, they don't bite. If you don't like them don't play them. If you don't want to discuss them and you want this to be a place free from those discussions then ignore the people that do choose to do so. Simples.

Storygames discussion in the other games forum, please.

I don't want my RPG board cluttered with storygame discussion.

Quote from: Ladybird;556387See, this is the problem with you. Every time something isn't exactly what you want, you start a thread and bitch and whine about it. You never actually try to solve your own problems. You never learn from your mistakes. You just rush in and do the same thing, over and over again, expecting that this time the world will have magically rearranged itself to suit you.

If you want change, fine. Be your damn change.Contact FFG. Apply to playtest their games. Don't buy the AAA multiplayer shooters when you know you hate AAA games and multiplayer shooters. If you want to discuss innovations in RPG's, fine. Do so.  But this isn't the site for aimless theorising and whining. Refine your ideas, prove they make games better at the table, than bring it back here and people will listen.

I actually agree that the magical storygame/rpg line is going to drive some people away from this forum, who may see the banner ad and want to post somewhere other than RPGnet. Fine. They aren't the right people for here. They'll be happier posting elsewhere.

This site might not be perfect, but there are many worse.

This is just pure melodrama. You want to talk about those other things? Fine, let's go:
You're accusing me of not trying to solve my own 'problems' (bizarre). This is a website, not AA, get a sense of perspective.
And if posting that shuffling threads around is stupid isn't trying to address a problem (certainly one I can't solve either since I don't have the power to moderate this site) then what exactly is?
Criticising FFG's utterly batshit stupid to charge people to proofread their game (they don't want playtesters as you'd know if you'd looked into the issue: Only War has already been playtested) is addressing the problem. I've already posted before that I have contacted FFG and told them to get their act together re: playtesting, proofreading, schedule, etc. Short of buying their entire business out and taking over the license there isn't much more any of us can do, me included, as you full well know. I don't want to playtest OW: I don't have access to a printer or a laptop; pdf's - as I've said many times (you people need to read what you're criticisng for a start) - are no use to me.
Moaning that I don't like most video games? Oh dear! Get over yourself.
Noone has been aimlessly theorising or whining and labelling the opinions of others as such just because you don't understand or didn't read or just don't agree with them is feeble.

Quote from: 1989;556391Storygames discussion in the other games forum, please.

I don't want my RPG board cluttered with storygame discussion.

Then define what constitutes a storygame because if you can't do that, how are people going to know where to post what when the prevailing wisdom lebels these games as such.

I don't particularly want my board cluttered with whining about the latest DnD edition, but I don't spend my time bitching about it. I know what the thread is about and so I don't read it. Again. Simples.

As you say, simples.

He thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he see the ghosts.

You're really upset that Ream tossed out his own cash for the ad aren't you?

You're gonna cry about this for god knows how long, and Pundit's not going to change a thing, and people will still come here because it's better than purple and you're going to feel even more angry and powerless then you do now.

Why don't you crusade for one of life's actual injustices?

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;556393And if posting that shuffling threads around is stupid isn't trying to address a problem (certainly one I can't solve either since I don't have the power to moderate this site) then what exactly is?

You've seen the rules. You've seen the posts and you've been on this site long enough to know that our host is inflexible in his views. Don't like that? Well, you can try discussing it with him calmly and rationally. Or you can post things according to his forum division. Or you can post them on another internet site..

Quote(they don't want playtesters as you'd know if you'd looked into the issue: Only War has already been playtested)

If they don't want playtesters, who exactly playtested it then? Do you think the author made all those names up? They don't want playtesters now because they already had them.

QuoteI've already posted before that I have contacted FFG and told them to get their act together re: playtesting, proofreading, schedule, etc. Short of buying their entire business out and taking over the license there isn't much more any of us can do, me included, as you full well know.

You could have tried contacting them to ask how to apply for playtesting positions. Yeah, it's too late for Only War, but that's your fault for not contacting them this time last year. Their schedule should be pretty obvious to anyone by now; the next 40K game, if there is one, is probably in development now.

Telling them to "get their act together"? Yes, calm and reasonable language like that will certainly make them carefully consider your requests.

And if their products don't meet your standards, why do you keep buying them?

QuoteI don't have access to a printer or a laptop; pdf's - as I've said many times (you people need to read what you're criticisng for a start) - are no use to me.

Oh noes. Quick, hold the world still until GW catches up!

QuoteMoaning that I don't like most video games? Oh dear! Get over yourself.

Hey, I don't like most AAA video games either! Only my solution is to just not buy them, so I'm out neither ten hours nor forty pounds. Radical idea, I know.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;556396Then define what constitutes a storygame because if you can't do that, how are people going to know where to post what when the prevailing wisdom lebels these games as such.

Vincent Baker.

Quote from: CRKrueger;556390Then shut the fuck up and stop being a whiny cunt.  You go over this crap whenever something gets moved, and now you're pissed because Pundit.  Just go rub a few out, punch a chav, do whatever.

The RPGSite is like Australia: Where it's manly to call another man a "cunt."

JG