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The War Against Desborough and Mongoose Publishing

Started by jeff37923, June 23, 2012, 01:35:33 PM

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The Traveller

Quote from: FASERIP;552919Rape of Lucrece.
I usually include one or two typos in all my posts so people know I'm not using a spellchecker.

And if your spellchecker doesn't correct "Lucrece", get a better fucking spellchacker.
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StormBringer

Quote from: GMSkarka;552904I love the fact that even on a wiki definition of a saying I fucking coined, some twatwaffle has to try to take a shot at me.
Dipshits.  Not unexpected, though:
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I don't see topic specific Wikis being too much different.
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thedungeondelver

This whole thing is playing out like the "Dickwolves" thing a couple of years back.
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Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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daniel_ream

Quote from: Benoist;552911From there it's easy for people who are not in their shoes to think they're making stuff up, they're lying, et cetera. I've seen it happen, and it's actually a lot more common than what one would think at first glance.

I've some significant experience with rape victims myself[1], so I don't disagree with you at all.  But I think it's important from a third-party POV to establish what actually happened as distinct from MalaDicta's perceptions, which may or may not be entirely reasonable.

And as cliched as it is, I have actually met the real-life goody-two-shoes-girl-in-high-school who went to bed with a frat boy in freshman year, regretted it later, and retroactively defined it as rape because in hindsight she didn't really want to have had sex with him.  And then went on to become one of the campus' most strident anti-rape activists.

As a generality to which of course there will be individual exceptions, the louder someone from this demographic screeches about rape culture and their experiences being raped, the less likely it is that they've ever actually suffered a violent sexual assault.

If there is any truth to anything MalaDicta has said, then there's a couple of habitual violent sex offenders running around her local gaming community and the police need to be involved, immediately.  That's what people ought to be focusing on, because the alleged existence of real actual criminal rapists deserves a lot more attention than what James wrote on some blog somewhere.

The fast that no one is bothering to do so strongly hints to me that her own supporters don't believe her, either.

[1] Details of which I won't divulge for what I hope are obvious reasons.
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J Arcane

Quote from: The Traveller;552922I usually include one or two typos in all my posts so people know I'm not using a spellchecker.

And if your spellchecker doesn't correct "Lucrece", get a better fucking spellchacker.

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The Traveller

Quote from: J Arcane;552928Irony.
Hear that whooshing sound?
"These children are playing with dark and dangerous powers!"
"What else are you meant to do with dark and dangerous powers?"
A concise overview of GNS theory.
Quote from: that muppet vince baker on RPGsIf you care about character arcs or any, any, any lit 101 stuff, I\'d choose a different game.

Marleycat

Quote from: GMSkarka;552904I love the fact that even on a wiki definition of a saying I fucking coined, some twatwaffle has to try to take a shot at me.
At least you actually did something to get something named after you like a gymnast or that old high jumper Don Fosbury iirc.:)
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

Sinister Brain

Quote from: thedungeondelver;552926This whole thing is playing out like the "Dickwolves" thing a couple of years back.

My god, I just googled the dickwolves thing.
Holy shit.
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thedungeondelver

Quote from: Sinister Brain;552933My god, I just googled the dickwolves thing.
Holy shit.

Yeah.
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Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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One Horse Town

Quote from: Sinister Brain;552906It seems very fucking convenient

If you want to talk about convenient, then Levi's sudden u-turn over the fuckedupness of Poison'd after 5 years of defending it is a nice starting point.

Benoist

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Quote from: daniel_ream;552927I've some significant experience with rape victims myself[1], so I don't disagree with you at all.  But I think it's important from a third-party POV to establish what actually happened as distinct from MalaDicta's perceptions, which may or may not be entirely reasonable.
No doubt. And I'll make clear myself that I have met people actually faking having been raped for a variety of reasons, going from delusions to getting pressured into it by friends and family and not wanting to "disappoint" to blackmail to even more fucked up reasons than all this, sure. Not everyone claiming to have been raped is ipso facto telling the truth of what really happened to them, if it happened at all.

Laurel

New poster here. I've been reading RPGsite for a while, ever since it was mentioned in a Trouble Tickets thread on The Big Purple, and Benoist's posts in this thread finally made me decide to sign up. To hear people on TBP talk, you'd think this place was nothing but a bunch of sour grapes losers who couldn't fit in with the k00l kids over there.

Not so.

I still have a TBP account and sometimes read Media Other, TRO, and D20. Tangency? ::shudder:: Just...no. I'm an unabashed card-carrying liberal, but they get up to some stoopid shit in there.  If that's liberal, I better find something else to call myself.

One thing I've seen here is people can say what they really think, and if someone's being a dickhead or a liar, you can say so. That's healthy. When the community can't use normal, sane rules to police itself, that's when you get these thousand-message threads about gender in which you've got a shitload of bad faith arguments and people playing pretend.

The Desborough thread is one of the most extreme examples I've seen. I feel pity for any rape victim, and like Benoist said, I hope the woman gets the help she needs. That said, she's done herself no credit whatsoever throughout this entire episode, starting with deliberately misquoting Desborough in the petition. There was enough to disagree with in the article that she had no need to misrepresent him.

Amusing that the g00ns are trolling the hell out of TBP. Should've suspected.


Marleycat

Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

Sinister Brain

Welcome aboard Laurel!

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