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The War Against Desborough and Mongoose Publishing

Started by jeff37923, June 23, 2012, 01:35:33 PM

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Marleycat

Quote from: StormBringer;552599Oh, you watch MST3K?

Any chance I get. Understand though I can't quote chapter and verse on the show.  I have other things to focus on beyond sci-fi and rpg's.
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

James Gillen

Quote from: Spike;552258(cue youtube video of lawyers teaching people to never say a fucking thing, ever and under any circumstances to cops because it can and will be used against you)

Yet another reason to never again post on RPG.net.

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

James Gillen

Quote from: J Arcane;552381About fucking time.

While I suspect this is exactly what he's wanted all along, his presence nevertheless cheapened this site to the extreme and gave far too much ammunition to the folks who mistake our allowance of free speech for actual support of such trash.

Well, before banning B.T. I would have asked him to fill out a questionnaire:
1. Do you live under a bridge?
2. Is your skin green, rubbery and covered in warts and moss?
3. Is your nose the shape and length of a grocery-store carrot?
4. Can you regenerate severed limbs?
5. Do you speak with a Jamaican accent?
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

James Gillen

Quote from: The Traveller;552422The only thing RPGnet has that this place hasn't (so far) is a tremendous creative trust. There's lots of creativity here of course, but a lot more over there, purely due to numbers I guess - no offence intended to anyone. Despite posting in this thread I really don't care about industry antics, edition wars, gossip, bitching or what have you. All I care about is the creativity.

That's why before I bowed out of the place myself, I set a very specific test for the moderators and the admins in my own trouble ticket, a test to find out what was more important to them, that rich creativity, gaming, or pushing sociopolitical agendas.

I did this because it took a long time for what was actually going on there to sink in, and when I finally copped it I couldn't believe it. Sure there were some dicks, but there are dicks everywhere. It couldn't be the case that the web's own centre for RPG discussion was that addled?

They failed that test with flying colours at every level, no doubt without even realising they were being tested, so I left it there.

So basically I don't see RPGnet having a big future ahead of it as the premier hub for the hobby. When the top is rotten, the rest has to come down sooner or later. As long as their top priority is by far and away pushing agendas, they will just push people away. Meanwhile I'm trying to dredge up a little creativity and get that ball rolling a bit faster. :D

Yeah, that's why I left, ultimately.  If it was still a good place to discuss roleplaying and promote the industry, I could curb my speech, walk away from Tangency and just use the forum for what it was intended for.  But roleplaying is no longer what it's about.  They don't get that many RPG reviews any more and when I was still following them, those reviews didn't seem to get any comments.

I think that as they allow themselves to be trolled like this for the sake of the correct "sociopolitical agenda", more and more people within the industry will see RPG.net as more a liability to them than an asset.  More so than B.T. and his Dave-Sim-without-the-talent ranting here.

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

James Gillen

Quote from: Sinister Brain;552508EDIT:  Did anyone else notice on Maladicta's petition when it first went up (Might still be misspelled though) she misspelled prostrate?  It reads Prostate.

Now THAT's an awesome typo.  

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

StormBringer

Quote from: James Gillen;552623Now THAT's an awesome typo.  

JG
I will remind you of that when you are scheduled for a prostrate exam.
If you read the above post, you owe me $20 for tutoring fees

\'Let them call me rebel, and welcome, I have no concern for it, but I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul.\'
- Thomas Paine
\'Everything doesn\'t need

James Gillen

Quote from: StormBringer;552624I will remind you of that when you are scheduled for a prostrate exam.

Aren't all prostate exams prostrate exams?

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

Marleycat

#247
Quote from: James Gillen;552623Now THAT's an awesome typo.  

JG

Hey now!  She may be a lair but given she has no prostate or prostrate she should be given a break. :)
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

James Gillen

Quote from: Marleycat;552626Hey now!  She may be a lair but given she has no prostate she should be given a break. :)

A lair?  Is that like the Arduin Grimoire typo where somebody read "percentage of monster being encountered at lair" as "% in liar"?

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

Marleycat

Quote from: James Gillen;552627A lair?  Is that like the Arduin Grimoire typo where somebody read "percentage of monster being encountered at lair" as "% in liar"?

JG

You say To-may-to I say To-mah-to...:).
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

RobMuadib

Quote from: James Gillen;552621Yeah, that's why I left, ultimately.  If it was still a good place to discuss roleplaying and promote the industry, I could curb my speech, walk away from Tangency and just use the forum for what it was intended for.  But roleplaying is no longer what it's about.  They don't get that many RPG reviews any more and when I was still following them, those reviews didn't seem to get any comments.

I think that as they allow themselves to be trolled like this for the sake of the correct "sociopolitical agenda", more and more people within the industry will see RPG.net as more a liability to them than an asset.  More so than B.T. and his Dave-Sim-without-the-talent ranting here.

JG

Yeah, I would like to see industry people quit advertising there, I saw several mongoose banners while skimming the MongRape thread. BS.

I have half a mind to waste $25 to get a banner ad linked to a 'Down with RPG.net' type deal, or at least linking to other RPG focused sites, like here and RPGgeek, rpghaven.

Focus on the Shitstorm and rpg.net thinks your rapist and morally backward Haterist, or something. Or the simplist, RPG.net = tangency.net

Part of me also wants to start a petition to hound Skotos.net (WHo owns rpg.net these days). Cause, free speech and shit.

James Gillen

Quote from: RobMuadib;552631Yeah, I would like to see industry people quit advertising there, I saw several mongoose banners while skimming the MongRape thread. BS.

I have half a mind to waste $25 to get a banner ad linked to a 'Down with RPG.net' type deal, or at least linking to other RPG focused sites, like here and RPGgeek, rpghaven.

Because a lot of people have pointed out that they'll post ads for stuff that isn't politically correct and is objectionable to the Tangency types.

Crushing dissent or getting ad money?  Such a dilemma....

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

daniel_ream

Quote from: RobMuadib;552631I have half a mind to waste $25 to get a banner ad linked to a 'Down with RPG.net'

Bah.  I've got half a mind to just buy the rpg.net domain and database outright.

It cannot possibly be a revenue generator for Skotos; offhand I'd guess 5 large would do it.
D&D is becoming Self-Referential.  It is no longer Setting Referential, where it takes references outside of itself. It is becoming like Ouroboros in its self-gleaning for tropes, no longer attached, let alone needing outside context.
~ Opaopajr

TAFMSV

Quote from: Sinister Brain;552508EDIT:  Did anyone else notice on Maladicta's petition when it first went up (Might still be misspelled though) she misspelled prostrate?  It reads Prostate.

Once, on a 3 hour road trip accompanied only by my iPod, I was digging a song but shook my head because the word prostate was used in place of the word prostrate.  It's an unfortunate, but not terribly surprising error.  Minutes later, another (unrelated) song used prostrate when it meant prostate. It's the same strange error, but still not as ridiculous as mentioning the prostate gland in a rock song. Hearing it switched both ways during the same drive is what surprised me.  I'll PayPal US$1.75 to the first person to correctly guess the two songs.  ;)

Quote from: James Gillen;552627A lair?  Is that like the Arduin Grimoire typo where somebody read "percentage of monster being encountered at lair" as "% in liar"?

Yeah. The "%LIAR" typo is in the LBB, and was sort of RAW at the time of the first Grimoire.

Justin Alexander

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;552251Is it just not possible that she genuinely misread the article?

No. Even when she claimed that she "misread him", she only did so in order to explain that she had only meant to slander him by quoting half a sentence completely out of context.

Like I said earlier in the thread: When your only defense against lying is "I actually meant to lie in a slightly different way", then you don't have any defense against lying.

If Desborough had kept his head and his cool, he could have easily come out of this smelling like roses: Once you've got someone admitting that they deliberately lied in order to slander you, it doesn't take much effort to rise above their mud-slinging.

Unfortunately, he chose to follow her right into the gutter of scumbag behavior. The result is the current morass where everybody is an asshole, which makes it easy for every internet troll and jackass with an agenda to throw whatever light they like on the situation.
Note: this sig cut for personal slander and harassment by a lying tool who has been engaging in stalking me all over social media with filthy lies - RPGPundit