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The War Against Desborough and Mongoose Publishing

Started by jeff37923, June 23, 2012, 01:35:33 PM

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StormBringer

Quote from: Rum Cove;552524Not at all, but if he's the ambassador for this site, it's unfortunate.

If I'm the only one seeing it, so be it.
I'm the ambassador for this site.
If you read the above post, you owe me $20 for tutoring fees

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Rum Cove

Quote from: StormBringer;552525I'm the ambassador for this site.

And you do a commendable job.  Congratulations.

thedungeondelver

Quote from: StormBringer;552525I'm the ambassador for this site.

Aos will be crushed to hear this.
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Mcbobbo sums it up nicely.

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Marleycat

#228
Quote from: StormBringer;552525I'm the ambassador for this site.

I couldn't seriously disagree after being brave enough to go over To TGD and take their insults in good grace.

As for Ben? He's a bit hyperbolic but so what, I'm worse and regardless it doesn't affect his moderation. Just look at what you have to do to get banned from here, seriously.  BT gave neither OHT or Ben a choice and I believe he wanted it that way.
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

StormBringer

Quote from: Rum Cove;552527And you do a commendable job.  Congratulations.
:hatsoff:

Quote from: thedungeondelver;552529Aos will be crushed to hear this.
He'll get over it.  He earned this disappointment by not getting Metal Earth pages to me quickly enough.

Quote from: Marleycat;552547I couldn't seriously disagree after being brave enough to go over To TGD and take their insults in good grace.
Pfff.  They only have the one song over there, it's not too hard to throw them for a loop.  :)
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John Morrow

Quote from: Sigmund;552434... in response was the big problem. IMO that is condoning threats of violence, which is a crime here in America where I live, and IMO wrong whether a crime or not. BT said it's ok to commit assault against a person.

It's generally only a crime if a reasonable person believes that the violence is likely to be carried out and the characteristic of those dismissing or approving of the threats in question is that they don't appear to believe there is any chance of what was being threatened actually happening.  If that wasn't the standard, then there are quite a few people who should be in jail that aren't.  Yes, I agree it's wrong whether it's a crime or not, but if they are going to start banning people for expressing a wrong opinion here, I'd like a list of wrong opinions that I need to not express.  For all of its faults, RPGnet gives one that courtesy, which is why I've never been banned there, even when I've expressed conservative opinions on Tangency.
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Marleycat

Quote from: StormBringer;552550:hatsoff:


He'll get over it.  He earned this disappointment by not getting Metal Earth pages to me quickly enough.


Pfff.  They only have the one song over there, it's not too hard to throw them for a loop.  :)

Oh, I get it. You're subtlety saying there may be an issue of high functioning autism coloring the general discussion.
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Marleycat

That's weird it shows BT posted but I'm the last post. Ghost of BT indeed.  If you're reading dude your last post is what you should have said.but it wasn't and to me makes it seem you got the result you actually wanted for some reason I don't understand.  Because this site is about the most accepting and freewheeling about everything that I've ever seen and been allowed to be a member of.
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RobMuadib

#233
Quote from: RPGPundit;552473Yes, I agree with the significance of what's going on.  Its the Tangency Swine going directly to war with the RPG industry.

RPGPundit

Pundit, and everyone else, wanted to point that the 'Tangency Swine' have another hangout in the SA goons, most notably Mors Rattus, Ettin, they post shit over in the grognards.txt on something awful

This post is pretty telling...

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3098558&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1971#post404969146

QuoteEttin posted:

    I take back a bunch of stuff I said about RPGSite, One Horse Town is a cool dude.


This was all started by you , the amount of lovely posters you have had banned on multiple forums is a credit to you

also checked into Circus Maximus.. nothing has changed they need another Anti-surprise sex Penguin.

They aren't interested in gaming, they're interested in posting lulzing and trolling for great justice. (all they do is troll other boards for the lulz and to start honeypots and bullshit)

So be aware.

To expand on this a bit

OBVIOUS COLLUSION IS OBVIOUS:

Original post
http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?632637-Mongoose-and-reactions

Ettin
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Mongoose, and reactions
So, after recent events some people have been thinking of not buying Mongoose products! I am curious about who is following through on this, or what people who haven't heard about it yet think of all this.

Basically...

• In a recent Tangency thread criticising James Desborough some users were upset that Mongoose publishes some of his stuff.*
• RPGnet poster MalaDicta started a petition on the topic.
• Mongoose noticed, and decided to post a poll about it with a sarcastic topic and an excluded middle. An early cache is here; later a "middle" option was added, and a while after the thread was quietly deleted.
• MalaDicta later had a conversation with Sprange, who accused her of being "immoral", "lying", and destroying Mongoose, among other things (transcript here).

That is about where we are at! Responses so far have been... mixed. MalaDicta herself has been receiving anonymous threatening emails since she started the petition. Desborough has tweeted that those threats are "not genuine" and it's her fault for leaving herself open to trolls (original feed is protected now). Gareth Skarka posted a defense in the Mongoose thread (couldn't find a cache of that) which led to an argument with Sarah Darkmagic in which he called her an "odious little toad" and openly threatened her and her husband. There might be some other commentary but if there is I've missed it.

So basically yeah, this sure is a thing.

*Note: This is a thread about Mongoose, things they do and the reactions to it, not the original mess. JamesCat said no more Desborough talk so if you wander off-topic you are going to make him a very sad man. And don't make personal attacks. Against anyone. Be a bro.

3rd post by Kai Taiv, in Red

Kai Tave
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Re: Mongoose, and reactions
So we're clear and there's no confusion on the matter, Ettin sent a private message to the moderators requesting permission to start this thread up in light of the last one on the matter being closed and he was granted it. Speaking both as a moderator and a regular user I would very much like this thread to avoid having to be closed as well, and am issuing this blanket cautionary message to any who feel like participating in it; be on your best behavior, as we are keeping a close eye on this thread and will take a dim view of it turning ugly.
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Carefully constructed Ban-trap/Activism thread Is obvious.

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StormBringer

Quote from: Marleycat;552563Oh, I get it. You're subtlety saying there may be an issue of high functioning autism coloring the general discussion.
Subtlety was never one of my strong points.  :)

Although, after my last post over there, I think I have realised something.  It's exactly like the prologue segment for episode 820 of Mystery Science Theater 3000, "Space Mutiny".  The bots are researching something or another with an out-dated set of encyclopaedias, which they emphasise by noting that they have a mailing address for Macchu Picchu, a volume for the letter 'epsilon', and pictures of Stonehenge under construction.  After the break, Mike gets them a set of encyclopaedias that are amazingly up-to-date and have electronic uplinks with "twenty-seven pages on Gwen Stefani alone!".  Naturally, the bots then complain that they already miss complaining about the old set.

I think that is quite a bit of the atmosphere over there.  They don't want the rules fixed; it would leave them with nothing to complain about.
If you read the above post, you owe me $20 for tutoring fees

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- Thomas Paine
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J Arcane

Quote from: Marleycat;552563Oh, I get it. You're subtlety saying there may be an issue of high functioning autism coloring the general discussion.

You mean like every conversation with John Morrow?
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Quote from: GRIM;552235Then the meaning [of rape] has shifted, at least within these groups. I think you mean condemn.

I differentiate between its use in such a way and the actual act in a similar way to I would to the phrase 'Run like a motherfucker'.

Ironically, Oedipus is Greek for "swollen foot".

JG
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Marleycat

Quote from: StormBringer;552589Subtlety was never one of my strong points.  :)

Although, after my last post over there, I think I have realised something.  It's exactly like the prologue segment for episode 820 of Mystery Science Theater 3000, "Space Mutiny".  The bots are researching something or another with an out-dated set of encyclopaedias, which they emphasise by noting that they have a mailing address for Macchu Picchu, a volume for the letter 'epsilon', and pictures of Stonehenge under construction.  After the break, Mike gets them a set of encyclopaedias that are amazingly up-to-date and have electronic uplinks with "twenty-seven pages on Gwen Stefani alone!".  Naturally, the bots then complain that they already miss complaining about the old set.

I think that is quite a bit of the atmosphere over there.  They don't want the rules fixed; it would leave them with nothing to complain about.

I knew all that without posting. It must be a "girl thing".;)
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

StormBringer

Quote from: Marleycat;552597I knew all that without posting. It must be a "girl thing".;)
Oh, you watch MST3K?
If you read the above post, you owe me $20 for tutoring fees

\'Let them call me rebel, and welcome, I have no concern for it, but I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul.\'
- Thomas Paine
\'Everything doesn\'t need

Marleycat

Quote from: J Arcane;552591You mean like every conversation with John Morrow?

Ok, this is a serious post.  I actually like him and I know he respects my views. He's just too focused on rules is all.
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)