Quote from: _kent_;552471Maybe you should fuck off then.

The idea that idiot mods involved in any discussion can ban people with opposing views is repulsive.

Only a mod who didn't post in this thread should have considered the ban.

Well, if you can read properly, you might just see that my views weren't in diametric opposition. I'm just not a cunt about it with a years long history of dragging this site through the mud because 'free-speech'.

Quote from: Ian Warner;552479Pundit is it possible to work out how much of an influence TBP has on purchasing habits as opposed to sites like this and having a loyal fan base?

I've got no public data I can share, but I will say this:

Having FAR WEST fiction available for sale via Amazon & Barnes & Noble has really opened my eyes as to the relative purchasing power of RPG fans in general (not necessarily RPGnet in particular) vs the general world-wide audience.

The FAR WEST fiction is available at RPG-focused sites like RPGnow, DriveThru, etc., as well as my own FW site, and yet month-to-month the sales from Amazon bury those numbers.    We've only got one book currently available, but fiction sales are strongly competing with gaming PDF sales (over 200 titles) at this point.

My personal take on this:  the tipping point is long passed and the hardcore gaming niche audience is small enough that it can be completely absorbed into the larger 'geek-entertainment' market without a hiccup.

Quote from: GMSkarka;552486I've got no public data I can share, but I will say this:

Having FAR WEST fiction available for sale via Amazon & Barnes & Noble has really opened my eyes as to the relative purchasing power of RPG fans in general (not necessarily RPGnet in particular) vs the general world-wide audience.

The FAR WEST fiction is available at RPG-focused sites like RPGnow, DriveThru, etc., as well as my own FW site, and yet month-to-month the sales from Amazon bury those numbers.    We've only got one book currently available, but fiction sales are strongly competing with gaming PDF sales (over 200 titles) at this point.

My personal take on this:  the tipping point is long passed and the hardcore gaming niche audience is small enough that it can be completely absorbed into the larger 'geek-entertainment' market without a hiccup.

Most people aren't looking for RPGs, they're looking for books. Much of the fault for this state of affairs lies with the good folks over at rpgnet. If you want to rail against the hobby as a whole -> blog. Yes fiction will outsell rpgs, very few people have any idea that the option is available. And those that do often have a prejuidiced view of the hobby, courtesy of the creatures over at rpgnet.

Its got nothing to do with a tipping point. Stephen King has made, by himself, long ago, a raft more money than the entire industry put together. That's not the point.

I can take a pencil, paper, and a bit of wood and bring people into my imagination, make any dream come alive. I can walk beside Gandalf or Obi Wan if it suits my fancy. The difference between this and flat fiction is surely obvious.

Actually my fiction hasn't been selling at all compared with my games: Weird...

Quote from: RPGPundit;552473Yes, I agree with the significance of what's going on.  Its the Tangency Swine going directly to war with the RPG industry.

RPGPundit

I don't think i entirely agree with this statement, but it's becoming pretty clear that some of the most vocal are non-gamers who know only what gamers have posted to get them outraged.

I mean, i've posted a pageful of quotes that glorify rape and mysogyny from Baker and his cronies and not only isn't it being acknowledgeod as such, apparently it's an attempt to derail the thread...

So yeah, looks like this is just about Desborough and these dicks can't see their hypocracy.

Quote from: One Horse Town;552499hypocracy.

An insightful typo.

They even changed the name of the thread.  I'm sure they say it's because it's not about Mongoose anymore, but it looks to me that it's just a badly veiled attempt to refocus the attack.

And what the fuck is with the rampant hypocrisy of the mods?  I've never seen it this bad.  Trouble tickets is filled with people getting thread banned for questioning another poster.  I know the rule is don't attack other posters but in a thread with people singing up just to mouth off about what an asshole Grim is and probably to support Maladicta and whoever the fuck else is in on this self-vindication circle jerk, you can't help but end up attacking the poster when they say completely inane and site senseless drivel as somehow fact.

It's become a ban-trap.  I'm not sure why the thread is even still open.  There is no actual point to the thread anymore.  The way they are banning people the only people left by tomorrow will be all the people who agree with each other (Hyperbolic but hyperbole and Sarcasm are my middle name!).

On a side note, thanks to Pundit and Marleycat and all the rest who welcomed me.  Very nice thing to do and thank you.  
I've already told a few people about this place and I hope they register.

Lastly, The B.T. banning.  I went back and read some other posts of his and holy shit.  He sure did come uncorked a lot.  Can't comment on the moderation.  Seems like he hit his asshole quotient though a while back.
So all I'll say is this: Vaya con dios B.T. and good luck with getting the dosage on the meds right.

EDIT:  Did anyone else notice on Maladicta's petition when it first went up (Might still be misspelled though) she misspelled prostrate?  It reads Prostate.

Quote from: Sinister Brain;552508And what the fuck is with the rampant hypocrisy of the mods?  I've never seen it this bad.

The Emperor's clothes are finally being displayed for all to relish.

@ The Traveller, you couldn't be more correct about Baileywolf I seriously enjoy reading about anything he posts rpg related.

Quote from: Marleycat;552514@ The Traveller, you couldn't be more correct about Baileywolf I seriously enjoy reading about anything he posts rpg related.

He is a dynamo. One sadly wasted in that place. More, much more of that kind of creativity is needed, more 101 threads, more setting riffs, more marvellous imagination.

Quote from: John Morrow;552387Not what he said, Benoist, and unless you are turning into an RPGnet trap moderator, you should know that.

Benoist is a horrible moderator.  I spend more time lurking than contributing ever since he got the gig.

I'm in agreement with what John has said regarding the ban, even though I doubt there would be a single B.T. fan on all the internet.

Quote from: Rum Cove;552519Benoist is a horrible moderator.  I spend more time lurking than contributing ever since he got the gig.

Oh yeah, I can totally see someone crouching in fear, lest Ben drop the banhammer out of a clear sky. :rolleyes:

If most of the crap you're gonna post is lies to support a personal attack agenda, it's probably a good thing you fear the Mad Frenchman. :rotfl:

Quote from: Rum Cove;552519Benoist is a horrible moderator.  I spend more time lurking than contributing ever since he got the gig.

And you're a horrible poster who just "contributes" whenever he smells blood to get his share of Ben-hate. Go fuck yourself.

Quote from: Sigmund;552434BT said it's ok to commit assault against a person.

Actually, he wrote "Duh", which could have meant just about anything coming from that guy.

Quote from: CRKrueger;552520Oh yeah, I can totally see someone crouching in fear, lest Ben drop the banhammer out of a clear sky. :rolleyes:

Not at all, but if he's the ambassador for this site, it's unfortunate.

If I'm the only one seeing it, so be it.