Quote from: misterguignol;516607That's a great idea...something like the random dungeon dressing tables from the DMG?

Yes. With ways to flavor even mundane setting elements with more oozing, loathesome creatures singing to the moon in their tangled grotesque worship while floating atop ponds chocking with primeval debris and devouring the buzzing flies of the foetid swamp.

Quote from: Silverlion;516641Yes. With ways to flavor even mundane setting elements with more oozing, loathesome creatures singing to the moon in their tangled grotesque worship while floating atop ponds chocking with primeval debris and devouring the buzzing flies of the foetid swamp.

I like the way you think, friend.

I'm on it.  Adding it to the list.

I just assembled my rough draft of the player's side of this supplement...30ish pages, without art.  Also without decent formatting

When I get a computer I'll  definitely do so.

It was throwing me because I thought you were talking about Legend of the Five Rings until I read through the thread. On the otherhand I am certain my FLGS had it in stock 3-4 months ago but I was getting Fantasy Craft at the time, only so much money ya know.

Quote from: misterguignol;516643I just assembled my rough draft of the player's side of this supplement...30ish pages, without art.  Also without decent formatting

Same here. Since I'm writing a game of similar themes, mind if I steal some of the stuff you come up with (classeless/level-less gothic horror fantasy game called Mourngyre.)

Quote from: misterguignol;516643I like the way you think, friend.

I'm on it.  Adding it to the list.

I just assembled my rough draft of the player's side of this supplement...30ish pages, without art.  Also without decent formatting

Is this something that will be published in print or posted online?

Important does not necessitate having to be favorable. Gothic, even the American Gothic derivative, has more to do with a dour traditionalism being a world character. Few things encapsulate that so well than an austere view of religion. It's the world's darkness that's interesting, leaving the good v. bad contrast flexible.

I'd have to read LotFP world settings, but I'd personally dig an African/Caribbean Gothic style. Or perhaps a Russian Gothic? I'll have to go check out the art free version and see what I'd like to see more of...

Quote from: Silverlion;516657Same here. Since I'm writing a game of similar themes, mind if I steal some of the stuff you come up with (classeless/level-less gothic horror fantasy game called Mourngyre.)

Well, keep in mind that I may be publishing all this stuff myself or indeed having it published by an actual imprint.

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;516676Is this something that will be published in print or posted online?

Might be either, to be honest.  Too early to tell.  I'm going to show a complete draft to a publisher--if they are interested, cool.  If not, I'll do POD/PDF.

Quote from: misterguignol;516707Well, keep in mind that I may be publishing all this stuff myself or indeed having it published by an actual imprint.

Hey, no worries. I'll make my own

Quote from: misterguignol;516708Might be either, to be honest.  Too early to tell.  I'm going to show a complete draft to a publisher--if they are interested, cool.  If not, I'll do POD/PDF.

Speak with Jim, if you did not yet.

Quote from: misterguignol;516497I thought you were all about genre emulation, Pundy.

I am, but some genres are more pretentious than playable.  The problem that I see emerging here is the type of mentality that you get from the CoC or WFRP - Swine: namely that everyone has to have gimped characters that are all about playing their weaknesses until they get devoured by something they're powerless to do anything about, and they themselves are never heroic, and always morally corrupt in some way, and combat is seen as something unseemly.

QuoteWhat counts as meat to you?  You say the proposed ToC, right?  There are new systems and random tables in there, son.  Monster stats, new spells, rules for grimoires, three adventures.  Is that not meat by your definition?

That could be meat. Some of the other things people were describing was not, it was just window dressing for pretentiousness' sake.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;517217The problem that I see emerging here is the type of mentality that you get from the CoC or WFRP - Swine: namely that everyone has to have gimped characters that are all about playing their weaknesses until they get devoured by something they're powerless to do anything about, and they themselves are never heroic, and always morally corrupt in some way, and combat is seen as something unseemly.

Oddly, I haven't proposed anything that would gimp the characters.  Any "weaknesses" I have proposed are just plot hooks in disguise.

Quote from: misterguignol;517219Oddly, I haven't proposed anything that would gimp the characters.  Any "weaknesses" I have proposed are just plot hooks in disguise.

Hm. This feels a bit too much like this form of thought:

I do not like Gothic Fantasy
I do not like Swine games
Therefore, Gothic Fantasy is Swine.

Quote from: RPGPundit;517217I am, but some genres are more pretentious than playable.  The problem that I see emerging here is the type of mentality that you get from the CoC or WFRP - Swine: namely that everyone has to have gimped characters that are all about playing their weaknesses until they get devoured by something they're powerless to do anything about, and they themselves are never heroic, and always morally corrupt in some way, and combat is seen as something unseemly.


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Fortunately my "Gothic Fantasy" has more elements of horror, with combat, heroes and the like. A more "dark and scary" Hammer Films if you will. Or if you will a game setting drawn from Frankenstein, Dracula, and Werewolf stories. Set in a fantastic world so we don't run into "Historical" problems, and can add our own monsters* as well.

After all combat was dark and brutal against Dracula, but the characters were heroes (most of them) facing him down.


*Mad clockwork inventor killing people and turning their skins into coverings for his clockwork people. Strange creatures that seem human but are empty of souls, facing either the horror of self, or the horrors around them. Clay men with souls, trying to belong to a world of men by fighting the good fight against true monsters perhaps. Voodoo zombies, mind control, mad witch-hags, flesh eating harpies dwelling in savage foreboding abandoned places, and so on.

Hey, misterg, can we get a preview of your appendix n?