Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;499791Please do and you will see how how wrong you were lead to believe.

I'm waiting. Show us what you got.

Remember -
it doesn't take a big man to stare the topic down,
just a little courage to lift the thread off the ground.

Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;499791The only thing that is true about your comment is that I have not started any NEW threads about gaming.

Right, that's why you insist on calling DungeonDelver "Bill Silvey" as if Power Word: Real Name will make the bad man go away.

QuoteI have a million threads I would love to start but as seeing they might deevolve into slugfests and other things, I would feel that I was wasting other people's time.

Or maybe it's just easier taking pot-shots from the sidelines?

QuoteNow as far as SOME of my comments are concerned toward certain members of a certain elitist site, I will target them because their elitism is angst of the fractured fanbase they create.  So sad, so bad.

So basically you are a whiny bitch who cries in public because certain people made of you on the internet. :rolleyes:

Also, I don't want to hug it out with you in PMs, so don't send me any more of those.  I do enjoy your addiction to multiple question marks, though.   on, you crazy diamond!

Quote from: misterguignol;499800Right, that's why you insist on calling DungeonDelver "Bill Silvey" as if Power Word: Real Name will make the bad man go away.



Or maybe it's just easier taking pot-shots from the sidelines?



So basically you are a whiny bitch who cries in public because certain people made of you on the internet. :rolleyes:

Also, I don't want to hug it out with you in PMs, so don't send me any more of those.  I do enjoy your addiction to multiple question marks, though.   on, you crazy diamond!

Typical of those socially inept posters who want to argue and then ask the person they have a issue with to stop posting.  If you want the last word, you are welcome to have it after this post.  

And to answer your one question though, I was always a firm beleiver that if you have problems with people, it is always best to deal with them personally because people are ALWAYS going to misconstrue things you may write/mean online in a forum.  Speaking to people in person has the surprising effect of actually being productive instead of this wasted effort of reaching people who attempt to communicate with any civility online.

Quote from: Ancientgamer1970;499805Typical of those socially inept posters who want to argue and then ask the person they have a issue with to stop posting.  If you want the last word, you are welcome to have it after this post.

I don't believe I've ever asked you to stop posting.  All I've done is point out that you're a whiny douchebag who contributes very little to the discussion.

QuoteAlso, I don't want to hug it out with you in PMs, so don't send me any more of those. I do enjoy your addiction to multiple question marks, though. on, you crazy diamond!

Can I still hug you in the PMs?

To take this back on topic:

I think DnD should take a clue from...

Warhammer 3e.

I despise it as heresy, but they got one thing great - they combined both DnD AC, and Warhammer's AP. And that's ingenious imo.

Quote from: Rincewind1;499809Can I still hug you in the PMs?

No reach-arounds.

QuoteTo take this back on topic:

I think DnD should take a clue from...

Warhammer 3e.

I despise it as heresy, but they got one thing great - they combined both DnD AC, and Warhammer's AP. And that's ingenious imo.

Can you go into more detail on how it works in Warhammer 3e?  I've forgotten.

Quote from: misterguignol;499810Can you go into more detail on how it works in Warhammer 3e?  I've forgotten.

I do not remember exact names for the characteristics, but it goes a bit like this:

Every armour has two stats (besides weight etc. etc.):

- Armour Class
- Armour Points.

Armour Class makes you harder to be actually hit - when you roll to hit, you add 1 black die (bad die, the die you want to avoid since it makes it easier to fail), to your roll

Armour Points make it harder to kill you when you are hit - you remove one point of damage for each Armour Point.

I think that combines the best of both worlds, really. I mean - technically it is a bit harder for the blow to even hurt someone a teensy bit when you hit the armour, the idea that DnD armour emulates, and the armour indeed, at least in case of weapons at disposal of people in Warhammer's technology level, will soak the power of the blow/bullet.

Quote from: misterguignol;499810No reach-arounds.

That's just bad manners.

I dunno Rincewind1, they removed Passive Defense from GURPS 4e for a good reason.  Armor doesn't really do that at all.

I dunno, I like the idea of armor absorbing damage. I also think it should make you easier to hit since it hinders movement and thus dodging.

Of course, that would make it a different game.

I think that in WFRP 3e the penalty to hit is to point out that you might not pierce the armour at all, when you hit someone.

Which is already represented by DR reducing the damage to zero.  It's just an unecessary complication.  I do like a coverage save to get DR though.  I think that's a decent way to represent partial armor while avoiding detailed hit locations.