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Is Dark Heresy just fancy misery tourism?

Started by AnthonyRoberson, August 16, 2011, 01:56:49 PM

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J Arcane

So, just to clarify because I'm fucking lost at this point, do we have actual fucking Alex Jones fans on this site?
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Quote from: J Arcane;475589So, just to clarify because I'm fucking lost at this point, do we have actual fucking Alex Jones fans on this site?

I always thought of him as a comedy relief guest when he would appear on the "Coast To Coast" radio program with Art Bell or George Noory.

 Hell, because of that radio program and the ongoing humorous conspiracy/illumanati undercurrent in most SJG products I tend to think of every conspiracy theory as some sort comedy relief routine or joke.


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Man.  I miss Art Bell.  Bell was a showman, he knew how to play the guests and callers with just the right mix of cynicism, skepticism, and encouragement to get a good story for the audience without ever being entirely sure whether Bell himself held any credence in the tale at all.  

Noory's just a credulous sap.  I stopped listening after Bell left, because what respectability there was to the show just sort of disappeared.
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Koltar is very clearly a Republican.  That's all I will say on the matter.
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So, that\'s something, I guess.

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I don't get the complaints about misery tourism.

When we play Dark Sun, some people are literally dying of thirst.
When we play Fading Suns, most people are illiterate dregs beholden to nobles.
When we play L5R, some people are not even considered human and treated as property.

I don't see why 40k is singled out...except for its awesomeness.

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I've listened to a couple Alex Jones bits. If he really believes all that stuff, he's a loon. A rich loon, but still a loon.
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I'm less offended by his cartoon paranoia than his bullish shouts-the-loudest attitude. He's a serious candidate for a slap.
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Quote from: Koltar;475567Yeah thats another reason it has to be a Fictional setting.

I don't buy Earth's people having any hope at all beyond a certain point in that setting unless there was a freddom or democracy revolt started somewhere.

You are aware that right here, right now in the world there are people living in other countries, right?  You are aware that some of those countries are truly awful and oppressive, right?  And yet, the people of those nations still have hope and still live lives.

Quote from: Spinachcat;475626I don't get the complaints about misery tourism.

When we play Dark Sun, some people are literally dying of thirst.
When we play Fading Suns, most people are illiterate dregs beholden to nobles.
When we play L5R, some people are not even considered human and treated as property.

I don't see why 40k is singled out...except for its awesomeness.

I think it gets singled out because people don't mind dystopian settings as long as you are "fighting the man" or whatever.  The fact that "the man" is actually on the right side in 40K is grating to people who are very anti-authority, which includes a large number of roleplayers for some reason.

Also, there are some people who appear to be imagining all kinds of extra bad things about the 40K setting and completely ignoring everything else (like the fact that the average citizen on the average imperial world lives a life more or less like the average person in our world).
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Quote from: Spinachcat;475626I don't get the complaints about misery tourism.

When we play Dark Sun, some people are literally dying of thirst.
When we play Fading Suns, most people are illiterate dregs beholden to nobles.
When we play L5R, some people are not even considered human and treated as property.

I don't see why 40k is singled out...except for its awesomeness.

40k is too popular.  Popularity brings out the haterz.

Sigmund

Quote from: Spinachcat;475626I don't get the complaints about misery tourism.

When we play Dark Sun, some people are literally dying of thirst.
When we play Fading Suns, most people are illiterate dregs beholden to nobles.
When we play L5R, some people are not even considered human and treated as property.

I don't see why 40k is singled out...except for its awesomeness.

I don't either, to be honest. It's not to my taste really, but other than that I see nothing wrong with it, and I certainly wouldn't call it misery tourism by any stretch of the imagination.
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Quote from: J Arcane;475589So, just to clarify because I'm fucking lost at this point, do we have actual fucking Alex Jones fans on this site?

I'm more of an Art Bell guy myself...but that was kinda far out there at times too.

Alex Jones just catches the most attention these days as far as "conspiracy nutjobs" go.
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So Blackhand makes a total non-sequitur post about FtA!, panics, and jumps into a massive thread-derailing bout of political nonsense to try to distract from it?

Hilarious.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;475836So Blackhand makes a total non-sequitur post about FtA!, panics, and jumps into a massive thread-derailing bout of political nonsense to try to distract from it?

Hilarious.

RPGPundit

Really?

I thought we hashed this out.  I didn't apologize for fucking with you or with Koltar, but I did stop.

Fuck it, I can keep going if you can.

Quote from: Blackhand;475100So it's more like America's foreign policies?

Oh wait, that description also applies to bullshit like FtA.

In this non-sequitur, I imply that you feel that you are some sort of "Fascist Killing Machine".

I called it Pseudo-Fascist Fanwank because you wrote it, nevermind what's actually in it - when did that ever matter?  You're right however, this remark was off-kilter - I should have said "psuedo-liberal".

I think you'd admit to being more than a little "fascist" in your worldview if you weren't such a goddamn hipster.

I think if you actually encountered a real fascist that's not how it would go down.

As if your leanings are the total gospel that all men should revere, and anyone who disagrees with you is "swine".  You work very hard to discredit anyone who brings up the fact that it's simply not true and that there are people on this board who will tell you about it.

You should have just left it alone.
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