Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;454018The successors maybe, but Matt Ward has a notorious hard-on for the Smurfs. They've only grown more powerful and influential in the fluff over time.

Which is somewhat funny, as the Crimson Fists (with a similar color scheme but entirely another primarch) used to be the big dogs.

Of course, I've also seen a huge push on the Banana's in the last codex and again in Rites of Battle... so maybe Mr. Ward isn't as influential as he'd like.

Quote from: Spike;454052Which is somewhat funny, as the Crimson Fists (with a similar color scheme but entirely another primarch) used to be the big dogs.

Of course, I've also seen a huge push on the Banana's in the last codex and again in Rites of Battle... so maybe Mr. Ward isn't as influential as he'd like.

Crimson Fists were popular because of prominence in the early art work (IIRC 2nd ed. featured them on the cover). After a few editions with new cover art, they dropped out of people's memories. Smurfs took up a lot of that prominence, especially since they were featured in a bunch of cheap boxed and intro sets. CF fandom is the 40K equivalent of grognardery.

The Imperial Fists have been popular for a long time. They're a second-tier popularity SM chapter (along with Dark Angels and Black Templars), but they have their devoted fans, and that keeps them from sliding into mere fluff trivia like the Iron Hands.

My guess is that the next few we see, after Grey Knights come out in the Malleus book, are Salamanders, Blood Ravens and White Scars. Maybe Soul Drinkers as well, if people continue to buy Soul Drinkers novels.

They have outright stated no more Marine knock offs that aren't revisions.

Though I think they'll stretch to the Deathwatch as they included Xenos Inquisitors as an option in Grey Knights.

Quote from: Ian Warner;454060They have outright stated no more Marine knock offs that aren't revisions.

Though I think they'll stretch to the Deathwatch as they included Xenos Inquisitors as an option in Grey Knights.

Not in the wargame, in DW.

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;454057CF fandom is the 40K equivalent of grognardery.

So is my insistence on painting my Dark Angels black.

FFG should find a way to sneak the squats back into 40k via a sourcebook imo

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;454064Not in the wargame, in DW.

Oh right.

Do we have Relictors yet?

If not they may come out with Daemonhunters.

Quote from: Broken-Serenity;454087FFG should find a way to sneak the squats back into 40k via a sourcebook imo

That would be pretty funny. I always liked the Squats and their background.

I dont know why GW doesnt just placate the older fans by adding them back in as a subjugated race in the tau codex, at least then people will stop asking about them all the damn time

Quote from: Broken-Serenity;454105I dont know why GW doesnt just placate the older fans by adding them back in as a subjugated race in the tau codex, at least then people will stop asking about them all the damn time

Meh... it's not as if the GW thought police will come and haul you off if you include them in your games. It would only piss off the fan boys who are best kept away from anyway.

thing is they would actually work as a subject race of the tau(heck from what i remember of the squats it would make them more interesting) so its one of those mysteries that will probably never be solved untill someone gets a job that GW towers who remembers the squats and can sneak them into the codex lol

Quote from: Ian Warner;454092Oh right.

Do we have Relictors yet?

If not they may come out with Daemonhunters.

Yup, they're one of the successor chapters mentioned by name in Rites of Battle.

Quote from: Broken-Serenity;454087FFG should find a way to sneak the squats back into 40k via a sourcebook imo

They're apparently coming back into the wargame. Apparently during their planet was devoured by the Tyranids and only a few survived... Rescued by the Tau while the Imperium was busy dealing with the 'Nids and the Black Crusade.

It's an interesting twist, I think, if it actually comes to pass. I think it's a wise idea to move away from the "space dwarves" idea and into a set of survivors involved in a diaspora sheltered by new enemies, while they have extensive knowledge of their prior allies.

I can't give proof for this, mind you, but it's rumours I've heard.

Quote from: Broken-Serenity;454087FFG should find a way to sneak the squats back into 40k via a sourcebook imo

You said it in a later post, but it's actually on the table that the "demiurg" will be vassals to the Tau Empire.  That is, Codex: Tau Empire.  

GW will be sneaking the squats back in themselves!  After that, you know FFG will be tying things together...

Anyways, that's the scuttlebutt.  I'd link to the Warseer post if the site was up...

That demiurg thing has been going on for... six? eight? years now... and all I've ever seen was some concept art and a couple of ships for Battlefleet Gothic, and then only from Forgeworld... though I don't really track BG.

Not that I mind the Demiurg, the old 'funny' squats wouldn't really fit the new Grimdark tone. And hell, the purple gorrilla stealth suits actually grew on me, so who knows.