Quote from: Ghost Whistler;452796No, this is what you said:



And that's not including the unprovoked abuse that comprises the rest of the post.

I didn't say you didn't HAVE a point, I said you weren't MAKING a point.

If you need me to explain the difference I'm afraid I'll have to outsouce that. I'm not qualified to teach small children, after all.

Also: None of the abuse heaped on you, by anyone in this thread is unprovoked.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;452726Oh go die of cancer you bleeding fuckign cunt. I've had enough of the fucking abuse on this thread as it is. I have HAD FUCKING ENOUGH!

Perhaps when you stop foaming at the mouth, people will stop treating you like a rabid dog.

Seanchai

Quote from: Blackhand;452829Pathetic.

The major point is that you're throwing around all this nonsense while simultaneously admitting you don't have any of the material and have never played that game.

It's pretty stupid.  It IS like trying to educate pork.

So quit trying to "educate" us,

Then grow up.

Of course I didn't have the game when i started this thread, that's abundantly clear to anyone with a brain in their head. Why else would I ask the question if i had the game and was playing it? Wakey wakey son!

Quote from: Seanchai;452852Perhaps when you stop foaming at the mouth, people will stop treating you like a rabid dog.

Seanchai

Your summary of events is at odds with simple cause and effect.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;452732...I'm sick of this constant fucking abuse.

[points to the door]

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;452732If you dont' fucking like it then don't dish it out you prick.

This one had me blinking for a bit. It created a bit of loop in me brain I had to control alt break to get out of.

Seanchai

Quote from: Spike;452849I didn't say you didn't HAVE a point, I said you weren't MAKING a point.

If you need me to explain the difference I'm afraid I'll have to outsouce that. I'm not qualified to teach small children, after all.

Also: None of the abuse heaped on you, by anyone in this thread is unprovoked.

Oh really? Then link to a single post that I made that provoked such abuse. Show me even one instance of the kind of rubbish you are talking that justifies being sworn at, called stupid, called a baby, an idiot, lazy, shithead, etc. I've got to read this!
And your pathetic attempt at revising your own posting history is as ridiculous as saying that I'm not making a point while simultanously agreeing that I have a point. I'm not really itnerested in unravelling your bizarre train of thought when it's perfectly clear you've been caught out. At least have the honesty to own up to what you said and that you've tripped over your own bullshit.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;452854Your summary of events is at odds with simple cause and effect.

If you weren't one of the kids here who goes from zero to abusive in about six second flat, you might have a point. But the fact is, foaming at the mouth is your status quo. Pointing at others, claiming they made you this way, is pointless when the casual reader can see you're like this time and time and time and time again.

So, yes, perhaps when you stop foaming at the mouth, people will stop treating you like a rabid dog.

Seanchai

Quote from: Seanchai;452855[points to the door]



This one had me blinking for a bit. It created a bit of loop in me brain I had to control alt break to get out of.

Seanchai

how very tedious.

let me explain it to you, even though its abundantly clear you understand entirely and taht entering this thread, at this point, is very obviously trolling: i'm perfectly fucking within my rights to call someone a prick after defending my position perfectly politely, consistently and cogently through about 5 pages of rampant abuse.

If you have a problem with that, I suggest when you next visit a shop or perhaps a gaming store that you shout and swear at the person working behind the till if he happens to express an opinion you dont agree with concerning a game you like. Then see how far it gets you. by all means argue with the guy, after you pick your teeth off the floor, about doors and morals.

Quote from: Seanchai;452857If you weren't one of the kids here who goes from zero to abusive in about six second flat, you might have a point. But the fact is, foaming at the mouth is your status quo. Pointing at others, claiming they made you this way, is pointless when the casual reader can see you're like this time and time and time and time again.

So, yes, perhaps when you stop foaming at the mouth, people will stop treating you like a rabid dog.

Seanchai

Again, cause and effect. Look it up, you pointless troll.

I didn't claim anyone made anyone anything. But if you are dumb enough to think people are going to relentlessly show you nothing but politeness and courtesy when all you can do is troll, shout abuse and chuck your toys out the pram because you can't and won't understand the point that's made repeatedly and explicitly then don't cry foul when you get a bloody nose.

Quick, someone hit him with the vial of acid, otherwise we'll never stop him!

Edit: I hit!
Oh shit, not enough damage!

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;452862Quick, someone hit him with the vial of acid, otherwise we'll never stop him!

Charming.

This is your best effort is it? Given up missing the point, now we move on to this kind of crap. You need to get a life.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;452863Charming.

This is your best effort is it? Given up missing the point, now we move on to this kind of crap. You need to get a life.

I can see it moving its lips, it might be troll mage! Quick, everyone, quick, before it casts Feeblemind!

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;452860let me explain it to you, even though its abundantly clear you understand entirely and taht entering this thread, at this point, is very obviously trolling:

No, I'm entering the thread at this point because I heard the baby crying from the other room and decided I'd better see if he needed his diaper changed.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;452860i'm perfectly fucking within my rights to call someone a prick after defending my position perfectly politely, consistently and cogently through about 5 pages of rampant abuse.

This thread has two page. You started out with a hyperbolic, suggestive title and then went on to sprinkle in such gems as "It's beyond absurd..."

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;452860If you have a problem with that...

You're confused. I'm not the one with the problem. You are. You've gone on and on about how unfairly you're being treated, how you're being abused, etc.. I'm the one who suggested the solution to your problem: leave.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;452861But if you are dumb enough to think people are going to relentlessly show you nothing but politeness and courtesy when all you can do is troll, shout abuse and chuck your toys out the pram because you can't and won't understand the point that's made repeatedly and explicitly then don't cry foul when you get a bloody nose.

So you DO understand why people are being abusive to you. I thought you did. So, again, perhaps when you stop foaming at the mouth, people will stop treating you like a rabid dog. Stop trolling, shouting abuse, and chucking your toys out of the pram and perhaps people's heckling won't bring you to the point of tears next thread...

Seanchai

Quote from: Spike;452848I don't have a problem with sanctioning. I have a point about the race choices presented by FFG.  Last I checked, Orks could be seriously considered an infectious pestilence, due to all that spore shedding and whatnot, creating new, psychopathically violent, unsanctioned orks everywhere they went.   And the Imperium KNOWS this about orks (whether they are right or not is irrelevant), so why would they EVER sanction one to walk around on Imperium worlds, no matter how cool a dude he was?  He's a fucking typhoid mary!

I actually agree.  I don't believe ANY xenos should be a playable character.

Quote from: Spike;452848Of course, Orks are very popular. As in 'Waagh' shouts are far more common and enthusiastic at tournements than, say 'Blood for the Blood God' or "For the Emperor" or any of a dozen other battlecries.  Kroot have their fans. Hell, I like Kroot.  But outside of a fairly marginal fanbase that is ALREADY built into the fanbase of 40k, they got no real crossover appeal.   Fucking pansy ass space elves, however, do. And they have a history, checked as it is, of working with the imperium, from Inquisitors heading to the Black Library, to actual, if infrequent negotiations and temporary alliances between the Imperium and Eldar.

Waaagh! is a group bellow that used by GW to create momentum at the tournaments and at Games Day.  It's not strictly indicative that those players are playing that army.

Quote from: Spike;452848I mean, if I were selecting races to be included in the game for personal reasons, I would have picked the Tau, personally. But from a business standpoint? Fucking space elves all day every day.

A series of "campaign settings" each detailing a specific point in the Imperium where these xenos interact with the Imperium might be nice.

Then we could all be happy.

Quote from: Spike;452848I was responding to your apparent attitude that you know much more about 40k than I do, or rather anyone you disagree with. It was snark, it remains snark, but also, I serious have given up on the table top rules until GW gets its head out of its ass and stops treating the customers/fans like raw meat. So its also an admission that if a major canon change has swept through the fifth edition codexes... like fucking space elves suddenly worshipping papa nurgle and Orks being sadly misunderstood... choppas aren't meant as weapons, they're really for knitting and the Orks really just want some good yarn... then I probably missed it.

Sorry you gave up on the rules.  Maybe you need a better wargames club?

Quote from: Spike;452848But Tau aren't included, so gue'vesa means jack and shit for this discussion. Of course, that means that Tau would be MORE unwelcome in the Imperium than fucking space elves, since fucking space elves don't have a program of proseltyzation going on, now do they?

Gue'vesa are not Tau.

Quote from: Spike;452848Also, you are demonstrably wrong about fucking space elves. They have an entire caste/path of exiles that leave eldar space and just do shit, occasionally returning to fight as Rangers... but otherwise, canonically, doing shit like... hanging with Rogue Traders as mercenaries, infiltrating human space to keep an eye on the monkeys... I mean mon'kieghs, telling Inquisitors that bad shit is coming down so the stupid monkeys put their big ships in teh way first.

Almost invariably, everything you gave as an example ends with one or both parties dead.

Quote from: Spike;452848And? We are talking about the choice of which aliens got the sanction. There isn't a debate that sanctioning occurs and why a fancy term like sanctioning is necessary.

Again, I agree.  I'd still rather have no aliens, which is really the only design choice I have a beef with.  Not which aliens are included (which to me is irrelevant) but that they were in the first place.

Quote from: Spike;452848Humanocentic, yes, which is why I didn't claim it wasn't that. However, its as much about the Imperium as Nazi Germany was about Poland.   Seriously, being the enemy of something is not exactly the same as being about something.

The entire point of a Black Crusade (and the Chaos Legions in general) is to bring about the destruction of the Imperium.  ALL OF SPACE is the Imperium.

They are in the Imperium, even if they control a small portion of that space.  Or they are invading an Imperial world.

It is very much about the Imperium, only it's the "bad guys" that hate it and are running around in it destroying it rather than the warriors that defend it.

Seanchai>
Dude, don't waste your time with Diplomacy rolls, Trolls can't speak Common!