Back when I was toying with E6 (never got to do much with it) I realized that some long-derided feats stand to gain from it. For example, Toughness suddenly becomes interesting. 30 extra hit points from a level-6 base isn't a clearly stupid use of 10 epic feats, that's for sure.

Yeah... this seems kind of pointless to me.

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Good stuff Cranewings.

E6 is good stuff. You can set it to E whatever and thus cut out what you don't enjoy in the D&D game.

The sweet spot for D&D for me was always level four to level ten.

I never cared much for play beyond level twelve at any rate.

E6 is a useful tool for those that want a specific level range for their game, but also want to have some sense of advancement beyond that set range without going too crazy.

I think it would work great for Pathfinder or any other d20 variant as well.

If someone doesn't see the point in an E6, then they probably never had an issue with upper level magic bloat/balance or they probably happen to enjoy the elements/tropes of level 13+ D&D.

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Quote from: Benoist;445743So... that's basically it. Stop leveling up after level 6 and earn feats for 5,000 XP each.

Pretty much, but as others have noted it's pretty effective.

One of these days I'll finish writing up the Alexandrian post where I talk about the fact that the "6" isn't a magical number here. This is really just a technique for locking in the range of D&D you enjoy playing. Combined with setting the level new PCs should be rolled up at, you can pretty much lock in whatever "sweet spot" works for you and play there perpetually.

I've known about 'E6' for a few years now, but I've never learned what the 'E' is supposed to stand for.  Anyone know?  Thanks.

Quote from: Akrasia;446125I've known about 'E6' for a few years now, but I've never learned what the 'E' is supposed to stand for.  Anyone know?  Thanks.

I believe it is supposed to stand for "Epic."

Quote from: Akrasia;446125I've known about 'E6' for a few years now, but I've never learned what the 'E' is supposed to stand for.  Anyone know?  Thanks.

What is missing is 'M' and 'H'.

It's a good idea for the reasons that Justin Alexander said.  

An approach with a similar goal is to mess with the XP chart, such as the next level requires current level squared times 1,000 more xp:

1 0
2 1,000
3 5,000
4 14,000
5 30,000
6 55,000
7 91,000
8 140,000
9 204,000

This requires no special rules but makes high levels rare, like AD&D without the linear later levels and without some of the irregularities in some of the classes.  Or you could have it discontinuous, with normal advancement until a certain spot, then really slow advancement.  Just play with a rule until you get a result you like.  

Along the lines of the stone to flesh feat above, you can add in the ritual rules from D20 Modern (or whatever they were called) for certain spells and to create moderate level magic items where each spell requires complicated casting conditions.

1) Pun pun is a 5th level character. I'd be happy to play him in any E6 game.

2) I find most of what people want from E6 is better handled by switching to another system like BRP or OD&D or Earthdawn, instead of rejigging 3.x.

I was actually going to do something similar for a 4e Essentials game.

Level cap of 14.  

I was vetoed as it wasn't epic enough.

Considering my Rogue Archer was doing on average 2d6+D8+10 damage, more if bloodied or unadjacent to an ally model at THIRD LEVEL I am not sure how fucking epic they wanted it.

Rifts or JRPG level of numbers I guess.

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;4461531) Pun pun is a 5th level character. I'd be happy to play him in any E6 game.

People say that all the time, but I just don't see it. I think D&D was practically made to be played this way. When I want to play stronger characters, I play other systems.

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;4461531) Pun pun is a 5th level character. I'd be happy to play him in any E6 game.

Pun Pun is almost as legitimate a player character as Roberto the Roaming Rapist. After all, you might find a DM who would allow him. :teehee:

If I wanted to play something self-limiting, I would never have taken up D&D.