Quote from: Shazbot79;398797So you say.

Gamers can be right smug cunts when it comes down to it...but the idea of some overarching conspiracy to take over really just sounds like a paranoid fantasy to me.

Of course, I've not seen any actual evidence of the "Great Forge War" beyond cryptic anecdotes from cats like you and pundit.

The last 20 or so 'people' to sign up at the Citadel have all been spam-bots or the like.  I have something like 100 actual members, and a very much smaller number of regular contributors.  You would think someone in the spam community would pass the word around that the Citadel is really a worthless target for their stupid bullshit.

There is no overarching conspiracy to shut me down or anything, simply that a shitload of human detritus happened across my forums at roughly the same time, and probably mentioned it to some of their 'friends' because I didn't jump in and shut down their accounts immediately (and they are probably newish enough that they aren't showing up on BotScout yet).

Same thing with the Forge-ians.  A couple of them stumble on an unsuspecting forum, alert a couple of others, and before you know it you have a basement full of silverfish.

Quote from: Peregrin;398881Is it really, though?  I've never read the game itself, but everything else I've ever read anywhere just indicated it was a comedy harem game. Which, considering most harem comedies are PG and rarely involve any actual sexual activity, doesn't seem too bad to me.

I'll put it this way: if you made a film based on the actual play reports I've seen, it would only play in the scary theatres on the wrong side of town, the ones with sticky floors and a lot of guys in trenchcoats.

Also, the rape dildo, and the fact the whole concept is based on a cosplay fetish, doesn't help.

Quote from: J Arcane;398957I'll put it this way: if you made a film based on the actual play reports I've seen, it would only play in the scary theatres on the wrong side of town, the ones with sticky floors and a lot of guys in trenchcoats.

Also, the rape dildo, and the fact the whole concept is based on a cosplay fetish, doesn't help.

Oookay then.  I wasn't aware that it had items like that in the game.

Quote from: Saphim;398919I never said that J was the only one on here who needs to step away from the keyboard.

Perhaps you should stick to topics about which you have some knowledge and experience.

Quote from: Peregrin;398960Oookay then.  I wasn't aware that it had items like that in the game.

i dunno, the site seems to take an "ages 16+" angle to the game.  not exactly the rape dildo age group.

that said, looks like the pdf is only 7 bucks.  for that price i'll download it later and see how hentai it really is

Quote from: J Arcane;398945The only one I see demonstrating a total lack of maturity in this thread is you.

If you've an intelligent point to offer, feel free, but so far you've offered nothing but whining and childish insults.

Grow the fuck up.

"Buh huh the bad people from the other forum come here and post stuff".
That is SO mature of you.

Quote from: Bellman;398904Certainly, I'm the only one of my gaming group who "knows" (i.e., even knows of) either name/identity. And even that is only because I've hit upon random shit on random sites at random times. What're the odds, hey?

Anecdotal evidence for the win. Woo!

The one thing I have seen?

Internet forums don't count for FUCK ALL in reality.  All this RPGnet this and Forge that?

Doesn't affect actual real people RPGing in the slightest.  I have seen maybe one indie game played live ever and it was a con game one shot which the whole collaborative schtick sort of works for.  (Wouldn't do it for a regular game though.)

Hardly anything hot button in nerd forum circles is discussed or cared about in the real world.

Something we should all keep in mind.

Now as to villains?

Most of em have been listed.  Lorraine Williams for effectively killing TSR.  The Loren Colemans and CRISIS TREACHERY-ers of the industry.  Worthless apparently stealing hacks like Shipman.  The stinky nerds who act like assholes.

Basically douchebags are the villains.  Which is true for everything really.

Its like many people can't help but be cunts...

Quote from: Saphim;398813It has to be true, otherwise J Arcane would have made his tinfoil hat for nothing.

It is for nothing...except he has a nice shiny hat.

After all the Trad vs. Indie warble, the end result is...

1) Trad players play Trad.
2) Indie players play Indie. [or play Trad and yak about Indie]
3) Non-players play WoW and talk about playing RPGs.

Quote from: The Butcher;398898And of course, the idiots who write drivel like FATAL and RaHoWa. The world would be a better place without the likes of you.

I can't complain about them!  Waay too entertaining.

FATAL is so bugshit nuts that its the text version of a poop painting done by asylum inmates.  

Racial Holy War had this cool rule where your gun could gain levels.  I've really loved that idea and been looking how I can make that part of how magic items develop over a campaign.   We did it in 4e which was fun and probably became my default magic item concept for our 4e campaigns.

Quote from: beeber;398986that said, looks like the pdf is only 7 bucks.  for that price i'll download it later and see how hentai it really is

Yeahhh... no. Even for seven bucks, just... no.

Don't forget the murder condom!

Cue Grimgent in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...

And the transparent uniform, of course.

There was likely very little good in this thread to begin with.

What possible little good it might have had has officially be engulfed in flames.

I'm pulling the orange lever and bailing out of this thread, I encourage others to join me.

Quote from: Saphim;398527Well, there is Kevin Siembieda who fucks his customers and writers over again and again and who milks the death of his friend for all it is worth. That is simply despiccable.

I was also a friend of Erick's, and I don't feel that way about Siembieda.  What's more, I've never heard anyone who was an honest-to-goodness friend of Erick's share that opinion, whereas a lot of people who range from "couldn't give a shit about Erick Wujcik" to "despised Wujcik almost as much as they despise Siembieda" are usually the ones who most want to present this kind of argument.

RPGPundit

There are, unfortunately, shitloads of minor-scale villains in this hobby. But I'd say that there are three who stood heads and tails above the rest in terms of damage done.
In both roughly-chronological order and order of "damage done to the hobby" (thus far):

1. Lorraine Williams

2. Mark Rein·Hagen

3. Ron Edwards.


RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPundit;399128There are, unfortunately, shitloads of minor-scale villains in this hobby. But I'd say that there are three who stood heads and tails above the rest in terms of damage done.
In both roughly-chronological order and order of "damage done to the hobby" (thus far):

1. Lorraine Williams

2. Mark Rein·Hagen

3. Ron Edwards.


RPGPundit

I think you're being a bit harsh on Mark Rein Hagen. I'm not a great fan of Vampire: The Masquerade or most WoD stuff, really, but there's definitely a case to be made that those games did a lot to keep the hobby going in the 90s by bringing in young blood that TSR just wasn't. (I include quite a lot of people my age, i.e. now late 20s/early 30s, in that group.)

EDIT: By the way, have you seen his wikipedia entry? Is all that stuff about living in Tbilisi true or just some very weird practical joke?