any recommended published adventures?  doesn't matter which edition, as i have both.  

i picked up both core books (1e from ebay, 2e from the free download) but never got to try it.

Quote from: Simlasa;387369How far could you stretch using JUST the quick-start rules? I've been reading them and they seem crunchy enough to me already...

FWIW, there are people who claim that WW's quick start rules are better than the full game (though that particular example is not about Exalted).

Quote from: KrakaJak;387471That sounds like an incredibly informed opinion! Do tell me more.

You are such an awesome contributor to this thread. Every thread really.

Like the opinion of this:


matters one whit to me.

Exalted is crap. Pass.

You know how there's a cable channel (Bravo! in Canada, or "People & Arts" here in Uruguay, I don't know what it would be in the states) which is basically a Pornography Network, but its all gussied up in a really "artistic" way, showing fairly crappy sex scenes but with the supposed appeal being that its "sophisticated" so that if you're simpering liberal douchebag you don't have to feel bad about getting off on watching this kind of porn, because you can claim that you're watching it for the "art"? And how in fact many people who secretly get off on watching this second-rate "Art-porn" can still turn up their nose and haughtily sneer at regular old porn?

That's Exalted. Its what lets White Wolf fans indulge in their little powergamer fantasies while still mocking D&D for being a "powergaming" game.  Because they can say bullshit like (actual RPG.net quote follows): "D&D is just a powergame. Exalted isn't a powergame, its a game about dealing with the issues of having massive power".

And that's everything you need to know about Exalted right there. Its Powergamer Art-porn for pretentious dicks.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;387654And that's everything you need to know about Exalted right there. Its Powergamer Art-porn for pretentious dicks.

Which it didn't have to be...but, yeah, it's hard to defend the top-heavy fluff of Exalted from that accusation. Like a broken watch, you're right twice a day.

For anyone who's still interested in Exalted even after the more withering critiques, the suggestion of narrowing your focus to the earliest books is a good one.  For one thing, they're increasingly available for cheap second-hand.  For another, they're largely still running on at least one rail, instead of totally jumping the rail into Pundy's art-porn power fantasy.  Mostly, though, Charm-bloat hasn't gotten totally out of hand like a game of Magic: The Gathering where, after buying a couple of recent splat books, someone shows up at a game with a deck of cards you've never even heard of.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;387654You know how there's a cable channel (Bravo! in Canada, or "People & Arts" here in Uruguay, I don't know what it would be in the states) which is basically a Pornography Network, but its all gussied up in a really "artistic" way, showing fairly crappy sex scenes but with the supposed appeal being that its "sophisticated" so that if you're simpering liberal douchebag you don't have to feel bad about getting off on watching this kind of porn, because you can claim that you're watching it for the "art"? And how in fact many people who secretly get off on watching this second-rate "Art-porn" can still turn up their nose and haughtily sneer at regular old porn?

That's Exalted. Its what lets White Wolf fans indulge in their little powergamer fantasies while still mocking D&D for being a "powergaming" game.  Because they can say bullshit like (actual RPG.net quote follows): "D&D is just a powergame. Exalted isn't a powergame, its a game about dealing with the issues of having massive power".

And that's everything you need to know about Exalted right there. Its Powergamer Art-porn for pretentious dicks.

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Yeeeeep that pretty much sums it up there.  (Oh and it's "Bravo" here in the US, too.)

I thought that Bravo had moved pretty much away from that sort of thing and was all 'reality-based' shit these days?

Wayback when Exalted first came out and my friends were waving it in my face I had no interest at all... zilch... but lately I've been wanting to mine the setting for its 'transhuman fantasy' elements... but damn, it's a big fucking pile of books to wade into at this late date.

Quote from: Simlasa;387369How far could you stretch using JUST the quick-start rules? I've been reading them and they seem crunchy enough to me already...

It's been a while since we played Return to the Tomb of Five corners, but IIRC the quick-start rules are pretty much everything you need to play the game. The problem comes when players want to expand their characters, because of the lack of new things for them to learn or rules on how they learn them.

You could definitely run multiple campaigns off of just the core rulebook and quick start if you wanted.

Exalted actually is about dealing with the issues of having massive power - the massive power that is a shedload of incomprehensible rules, increasingly bizarre sub-manga antagonists and a world that can't cope with your existence in any way whatsoever.

Quote from: RPGPunditIts Powergamer Art-porn for pretentious dicks.

That's like saying Dungeons and Dragons is for basement dwelling virgins. Just because one douche on RPG.net likes to play it that way doesn't mean everyone does(for an example, see the PatternSpider.net forums) The scope of play styles encouraged (and encountered by myself) is huge. From most pretentious to as unpretentious as you can get (For example, the Power Rangers style Giant Robot campaign mentioned in the 2e corebook).

To say that the game is 'all about that' is mistaking the tree for the forest.

Some people get down on the experiencing the setting minutia and some people get down on blowing it all up. Some people think it's fun to make nun-chucks out of dinosaurs. Some people want to explore the sexual identity of a bestial character who can change sex at will (a little weird). Exalted can be all that and more.

I got sucked in by the promise of Exalted. Bought a pile of books. Then, I tried to start a game of Exalted with six 3.5E D&D players, five of which had never played anything other than 3.5E D&D.

The horror...

Quote from: KrakaJak;387827That's like saying Dungeons and Dragons is for basement dwelling virgins. Just because one douche on RPG.net likes to play it that way doesn't mean everyone does(for an example, see the PatternSpider.net forums) The scope of play styles encouraged (and encountered by myself) is huge. From most pretentious to as unpretentious as you can get (For example, the Power Rangers style Giant Robot campaign mentioned in the 2e corebook).

To say that the game is 'all about that' is mistaking the tree for the forest.

Some people get down on the experiencing the setting minutia and some people get down on blowing it all up. Some people think it's fun to make nun-chucks out of dinosaurs. Some people want to explore the sexual identity of a bestial character who can change sex at will (a little weird). Exalted can be all that and more.

Nope, powergamer art-porn for Swine in self-denial about wanting to be powergamers (because you were told "artistes don't do that!!").

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Quote from: RPGPundit;387910Nope, powergamer art-porn for Swine in self-denial about wanting to be powergamers (because you were told "artistes don't do that!!").

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I dunno... I mean, even if the designers and a lot of the fans of the game meant it that way... what I've read so far is just a superhero game in an 'exotic' fantasy setting.
I'd never want to play this with actual 'powergamer'/bean-counter types... but with the right group it seems like it could do all sorts of wonderful things.
Maybe it's because I've been re-reading Cadwallon at the same time and I'm seeing parallels between Cadwallon's 'Incarnate' NPCs and the 'Exalted'.

If Exalted is Pretentious Powergamer Porn, then D&D is Fantasy for Fuckwits. Both statements totally miss the point.