D&D 4.5 is go

ggroy · June 01, 2010, 12:46:16 PM

Quote from: areola;385196With the Nentir Vale being fleshed out, they might as well make it a campaign setting.

Could be. Though for such a world beyond Nentir Vale, wonder what they're going to flesh out beyond the present known map of it.

At the present time, I don't know if WotC would have the appetite to create an entire huge new setting, which isn't that drastically different from older generic settings like Mystara, Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk, Dragonlance, etc ...

Abyssal Maw · June 01, 2010, 01:00:03 PM

Quote from: ggroy;385198Could be. Though for such a world beyond Nentir Vale, wonder what they're going to flesh out beyond the present known map of it.

At the present time, I don't know if WotC would have the appetite to create an entire huge new setting, which isn't that drastically different from older generic settings like Mystara, Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk, Dragonlance, etc ...

In a way, this setting already exists. Keep on the Shadowfell, Vor Rukuth, Thunderspire Labyrinth and Hammerfast are part of the same world as Nentir Vale (and references to Bael Turath, Arkhosia, etc).

That world just doesn't seem to have ever been named.

Mistwell · June 01, 2010, 04:15:47 PM

Quote from: ggroy;384974Back to the OP topic.

From an enworld post,

http://www.enworld.org/forum/5198046-post60.html

the unconfirmed 4E titles scheduled for release in March and April 2011 are:

March - "Player's Option: Heroes of Shadow" (6" x 9" trade paperback)

April - "Mordenkainen's Magnificent Emporium" (alleged to be a hardcover book, but unconfirmed).

I read your post, thought "hmm, "Mordenkainen's Magnificent Emporium" sounds interesting, I think I will google that and see what I can find out".

Which led me...back to your post.

Curses my failed googlefu!

The only other post, anywhere, on that topic, said "4. Mordenkainen's Magnificent Emporium is a hardback coming out in April that looks like it's going to be Adventure's Vault 3."

Mistwell · June 01, 2010, 04:19:37 PM

Quote from: areola;384998So all books after Essentials are small paperbacks? And Player's Option? Is that the way they introduce the Shadow power source?

No. Magnificent Emporium is supposed to be hardback.

ggroy · June 01, 2010, 04:20:42 PM

Quote from: Mistwell;385214I read your post, though "hmm, "Mordenkainen's Magnificent Emporium" sounds interesting, I think I will google that and see what I can find out".

Which led me...back to your post.

Curses my failed googlefu!

The only other post, anywhere, on that topic, said "4. Mordenkainen's Magnificent Emporium is a hardback coming out in April that looks like it's going to be Adventure's Vault 3."

I too would like to see this printed WotC Winter/Spring 2011 catalog, to confirm or deny these two titles' existence. I was relying on that enworld post, that provided the unconfirmed info.

Usually WotC's printed catalogs end up on this web page:

http://www.randomhouse.biz/international/downloads

Benoist · June 01, 2010, 04:34:29 PM

I wish WotC didn't have the right to use Mordenkainen. That makes me cringe. Every time.

areola · June 01, 2010, 04:44:45 PM

Quote from: Benoist;385218I wish WotC didn't have the right to use Mordenkainen. That makes me cringe. Every time.

So is Mordenkainen in Nentir Vale? No mention of Greyhawk as far as I know in 4e.

Doom · June 01, 2010, 04:59:27 PM

Heh, I cringe every time someone uses the words Magic Missile (sic) in a 4e game.

thedungeondelver · June 01, 2010, 07:20:40 PM

Quote from: Benoist;385218I wish WotC didn't have the right to use Mordenkainen. That makes me cringe. Every time.

I too wish they'd leave Gary's "home campaign" stuff alone.

The Mordenkainen-as-Sean Reynolds was annoying enough.

Mistwell · June 02, 2010, 11:08:14 PM

The spell-naming-thing was from Vance. Gygax borrowed it from him. He didn't keep it his "home game", he gave Mordenkainen to TSR, hence to WOTC.

WOTC publishes 4e, and 4e is the current version of D&D. So, why WOULDN'T they use those names? It would be like cringing every time you hear Ford Mustang to refer to the modern Mustang, because you drive a 67 Mustang....

Benoist · June 02, 2010, 11:11:44 PM

Quote from: Mistwell;385541The spell-naming-thing was from Vance. Gygax borrowed it from him.

WOTC publishes 4e, and 4e is the current version of D&D. So, why WOULDN'T they use those names? It would be like cringing every time you hear Ford Mustang to refer to the modern Mustang, because you drive a 67 Mustang....

Nobody's discussing the fact they have legal ownership of these names.
My objection is moral. It's got nothing to do with the legality of it.

And 4e is D&DINO.

ggroy · June 02, 2010, 11:17:24 PM

Quote from: Mistwell;385541The spell-naming-thing was from Vance. Gygax borrowed it from him. He didn't keep it his "home game", he gave Mordenkainen to TSR, hence to WOTC.

Wonder if they're introducing the name Mordenkainen in 4E now, largely as a way of keeping the trademark active on the name "Mordenkainen".

Doom · June 03, 2010, 12:11:32 AM

Quote from: Mistwell;385541The spell-naming-thing was from Vance. Gygax borrowed it from him. He didn't keep it his "home game", he gave Mordenkainen to TSR, hence to WOTC.

WOTC publishes 4e, and 4e is the current version of D&D. So, why WOULDN'T they use those names? It would be like cringing every time you hear Ford Mustang to refer to the modern Mustang, because you drive a 67 Mustang....

To be more accurate, it would be fair to cringe if the 2010 Mustang was officially called "The '67 Mustang"

Abyssal Maw · June 03, 2010, 07:06:07 AM

I'm playing in a 4E Greyhawk game. Hahaha, suck it.

Tahmoh · June 03, 2010, 09:54:59 AM

The essentials line will be my first taste of D&D4e, my brother has asked me to run a game of it for him and his friends later this year and i figured why bother buying the current rulebooks when that stuff is actually gonna work out cheaper to get than trying to catch up on all the options currently available.