Quote from: Benoist;361881You don't have to apologize to anyone, Sigmund.

Seanchai just brings it up to claim some sort of moral high ground he cannot possibly stand on in the first place. His years of baiting and trolling on these very boards will make any regular here laugh at the very idea.

You know...a lot of people here call Seanchai a troll...I honestly don't see it...just like Cavscout, it seems his only real crime is disagreeing with the wrong people persistently.

Or maybe I'm just not reading the really juicy threads...I dunno.

Incidentally, I think Sigmund was right though..."Champions of Honor" is fucking stupid.

You might as well call them something equally generic, like "The Lions of Purity" or the "The Golden Knights of Lawful Goodness" or "The Gladiators of Table Etiquette"

Personally, I can't wait until they go to Mirror World, where the Champions of Dishonor all have goatees and reign with a tyrannical, mailed fist.  Ooooh....

That is pure gold, right there.  I should probably be reaching for my notepad, ready to scrawl the necessary notation.

Quote from: Shazbot79;362258You know...a lot of people here call Seanchai a troll...I honestly don't see it...just like Cavscout seems his only real crime is disagreeing with the wrong people persistently.

I'm not surprised by this either.

QuoteOr maybe I'm just not reading the really juicy threads...I dunno.

Incidentally, I think Sigmund was right though..."Champions of Honor" is fucking stupid.

Then apparently you're not very good at thinkin.

QuoteYou might as well call them something equally generic, like "The Lions of Purity" or the "The Golden Knights of Lawful Goodness" or "The Gladiators of Table Etiquette"

So what would be the brilliant and stylish name you would come up with?

Quote from: Seanchai;362149I appreciate it, but that's not necessary.

Seanchai

I know.

Quote from: Shazbot79;362258You know...a lot of people here call Seanchai a troll...I honestly don't see it...just like Cavscout seems his only real crime is disagreeing with the wrong people persistently.

"Troll" has come to mean "people who don't agree with me even though I told them to." It's a meaningless term these days.

Seanchai

Quote from: jgants;361984Here's a perfect example of a good use of the technique from my Friday night game:

The PCs learn there is a doppleganger in the area helping out the evil dragon.  One of the PCs, whose backstory involved being enslaved to a necromancer, mentions something about his former master having a doppleganger ally and wondering aloud if it was the same guy.

The doppleganger ally had never been mentioned before in his background; the player just threw it in as a suggestion.  It will actually work great, because the whole point of the doppleganger character is that he is a death cultist (though the PCs haven't discovered that yet) which would make him a natural ally of necromancers.

The reason I like it here is:
A) The player only suggested it as a possibility, not a foregone conclusion.
B) He took pre-existing pieces of the campaign and suggested how to tie them together, rather than just inventing random shit (like elite groups of champions) out of thin air.
C) It adds to the story and motivates his character, but isn't something that gives him any kind of unfair advantage (like, say, inventing a poorly-named group of elite champions).

This is a great example.  I would welcome this kind of player involvement as well because of A, B, and C.

Quote from: Sigmund;362274So what would be the brilliant and stylish name you would come up with?

"The Stonecutters"

Quote from: Seanchai;362300"Troll" has come to mean "people who don't agree with me even though I told them to." It's a meaningless term these days.

Seanchai

Turns out this community is full of pompous ass-hats.

Quote from: Shazbot79;362380Turns out this community is full of pompous ass-hats.

One of us! One of us!

Quote from: Shazbot79;362380Turns out this community is full of pompous ass-hats.

And you're a useless, ignorant twat, more interested in his own false sense of superiority than any actual reality.

Go back through Seanchai's logs and find me one bloody common thread in any post he's ever made to this site.  You can't.  I called him a troll, because that's what he is, the very definition of one: a random asshat on the internet who seeks only to create argument wherever he goes.  

He's been known for this behavior in RPG circles for years.

I'd watch out who you play white knight for, it might come around to bit you in the ass.

Quote from: J Arcane;362382And you're a useless, ignorant twat, more interested in his own false sense of superiority than any actual reality.

*sniff* Does that mean you're not coming to my brithday party? : (

(QUOTE)
"I bang vigorously on my shield, showing them the emblem of my warrior order."
Ed has never before referenced and emblem on his shield, but since it's his character, he can introduce it without any adjustment by you [the DM].
"Do you recognize this symbol?" Ed exclaims, in his deep Erekam voice. "It identifies me as a member of the Champions of Honor!" Do you not know us?"
You [the DM] have never heard of the Champions of Honor. You reach for your notepad, ready to scrawl the necessary notation.
In character as the indiffierent guard, you scratch your head and say, "We don't receive visitors hereabouts, stranger."
"Why, for a hundred years the Champpions of Honor have protected the good folk of this region, driving off orcs and bandits alike!"
(QUOTE)

DM in character: Guard: "oh yeah I remember now, your the group that was disbanded by the king for ritual acts of fornication with farm animals. How sad."

DM out of character: "Ed, if you want to run a game yourself I'm their, if not at least run background info by me BEFORE this damn game."

Quote from: raeth;362495DM in character: Guard: "oh yeah I remember now, your the group that was disbanded by the king for ritual acts of fornication with farm animals. How sad."

DM out of character: "Ed, if you want to run a game yourself I'm their, if not at least run background info by me BEFORE this damn game."

this is the sort of patronizing attitude that i mentioned bothered me upthread. your response is to completely pervert the player's contribution to the fiction and you don't seem to have any reason beyond, "i'm the dm and it's my game, so i'm the only one who's allowed to create elements of the fictional game world on the fly." if you do have a reason, like that mentioned upthread, where someone said that sort of play ruins his sense of immersion, that's something i can accept. but objecting to it because... why? it intrudes on your authori-TEH? that strikes me  as childish, especially given the insulting way you suggest subverting the contribution.

Quote from: two_fishes;362555this is the sort of patronizing attitude that i mentioned bothered me upthread. your response is to completely pervert the player's contribution to the fiction and you don't seem to have any reason beyond, "i'm the dm and it's my game, so i'm the only one who's allowed to create elements of the fictional game world on the fly." if you do have a reason, like that mentioned upthread, where someone said that sort of play ruins his sense of immersion, that's something i can accept. but objecting to it because... why? it intrudes on your authori-TEH? that strikes me  as childish, especially given the insulting way you suggest subverting the contribution.

Get off your fucking cross. Not everything is "OMFG! GM Opressorz!".

Quote from: jeff37923;362601Get off your fucking cross. Not everything is "OMFG! GM Opressorz!".

Speaking of childish.