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Anyone playing the new Hackmaster

Started by brettmb, September 18, 2009, 04:54:40 PM

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#30
September 20, 2009, 10:21:26 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;332445And 5 levels. That's not bad.

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Despite the presence of class and levels it is a skill based system. So you have some options to fiddle with while waiting for the Advanced version to come out.

ColonelHardisson

#31
September 21, 2009, 06:52:06 PM
If Jolly or some of the other Kenzer guys are still looking in on this thread, I'm wondering if we'll see a 5th edition version of the GM Shield? The original one I still consider one of the best RPG peripherals ever, and the best GM screen of all time.
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Nicephorus

#32
September 21, 2009, 07:36:37 PM
I browsed Hackmaster 4e and it didn't click for me, didn't like the humor style and it was a big mess of rules.  so you see where I'm coming from.

Only a few minor wtf moments in the rules and a few hard to grock rule wordings.  It's a very solid set of rules.  As someone said, it's really more of a skill based game than a simple level game.  The magic system is pt based but with added flexibility.  Classes are good.  It's rather low magic, which I like.  Compared to D&D, hit points start higher and have a lower slope.

It's a tad too persnickity for me (I've been in a rules light mindset the last couple of years) but it's a very solid game and well worth the bargain price.

Akrasia

#33
September 21, 2009, 08:45:16 PM
Quote from: JollyRB;332696Not sure if Mark mentioned it here but we're on our last box of HMB books and expect to sell out this week.  A nice problem to have.

Unfortunately we the 2nd printing won't be available til around xmas. We have several new products in the works and like the gang print to bring down cost.

Just thought I'd give folks a heads up.

Crap!  :mad:  

Oh well, I doubt that I'd have a chance to try it out before X-mas anyway...
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#34
September 22, 2009, 09:10:45 AM
I didn't like the original (4e) Hackmaster at all. It's style just did not gel with me.  On a whim I picked up the latest Hackmaster Basic and really liked it. It's a completely different animal. Can't wait for Advanced Hackmaster to come out!
 

Nicephorus

#35
September 22, 2009, 09:39:31 AM
Quote from: GoOrange;333329On a whim I picked up the latest Hackmaster Basic and really liked it.

At $20, it is in the range for impusle buys.  I was on vacation in July and saw and thought "What the hell."  I was also looking at Trail of Cthulhu but it was twice the price so I passed.

JollyRB

#36
September 23, 2009, 01:39:46 AM
Quote from: ColonelHardisson;333181If Jolly or some of the other Kenzer guys are still looking in on this thread, I'm wondering if we'll see a 5th edition version of the GM Shield? The original one I still consider one of the best RPG peripherals ever, and the best GM screen of all time.

We'll definitely be doing a shield. But it will probably be put off til AHM comes out to incorporate more of the new rules/additions.
 

brettmb

#37
September 23, 2009, 01:42:59 AM
Quote from: JollyRB;333519We'll definitely be doing a shield. But it will probably be put off til AHM comes out to incorporate more of the new rules/additions.
Are you going to release Hacklopedias for this edition?

Mark Plemmons

#38
September 23, 2009, 10:33:49 AM
Yes, the monster book be the Hacklopedia of Beasts.  It'll be one hardcover with monsters A-Z, though, not a set of 8 volumes like HM4th.  Future HOBs will probably be labeled HOB 2, HOB 3, etc., much like how D&D does their Monster Manuals.
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#39
September 23, 2009, 10:44:09 AM
Quote from: JollyRB;332701Much much higher than that actually.

Seriously, a 1000 book print run and we would have sold out during its first week of release.
Just our online pre-release sales would have done that I think.
I always hear very low guesstimates for RPG print-runs. Glad to hear it was higher.

Will Advanced be multi-volume? Does it entirely replace or only supplement Basic?
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brettmb

#40
September 23, 2009, 12:08:41 PM
Quote from: Mark Plemmons;333588Yes, the monster book be the Hacklopedia of Beasts.  It'll be one hardcover with monsters A-Z, though, not a set of 8 volumes like HM4th.  Future HOBs will probably be labeled HOB 2, HOB 3, etc., much like how D&D does their Monster Manuals.

Mark, let me ask you another question. Clearly, you have the resources to produce a full color book, since you did that with Aces & Eights. Yet Hackmaster is sort of poised against D&D, which is full color, but you didn't go that route. Do you plan on doing the Advanced book as full-color, or are you simply aiming for a lower price point as opposed to flash?

Mark Plemmons

#41
September 23, 2009, 04:33:45 PM Last Edit: September 23, 2009, 04:35:59 PM by Mark Plemmons
We do want to make some more cool-looking books that'll make you drool as much or more than Aces & Eights did.  Of course, some products are better served as b&w and/or paperback (such as HackMaster Basic).  There are a lot of variables to consider.

The Hacklopedia is currently planned to be color.  Not sure about color for the Player's or GM's books yet.  All three are planned to be hardcover, though.

We'll probably be making more detailed announcements about these in the near future...  ;)
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#42
September 23, 2009, 06:13:29 PM Last Edit: September 23, 2009, 06:36:52 PM by ColonelHardisson
weird double post
"Illegitimis non carborundum." - General Joseph "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell

4e definitely has an Old School feel. If you disagree, cool. I won\'t throw any hyperbole out to prove the point.

ColonelHardisson

#43
September 23, 2009, 06:19:03 PM
Quote from: JollyRB;333519We'll definitely be doing a shield. But it will probably be put off til AHM comes out to incorporate more of the new rules/additions.

Will this shield be anything like the HM4e shield? Or will it be more traditional?
"Illegitimis non carborundum." - General Joseph "Vinegar Joe" Stilwell

4e definitely has an Old School feel. If you disagree, cool. I won\'t throw any hyperbole out to prove the point.

Nazgul

#44
September 23, 2009, 07:58:03 PM
Quote from: ColonelHardisson;333763Will this shield be anything like the HM4e shield? Or will it be more traditional?

Oh, please let it be as cool as the HM4e shield. That thing rocked on toast. Even had the 'pizza matrix'. What more could you want?
Abyssal Maw:

I mean jesus. It's a DUNGEON. You're supposed to walk in there like you own the place, busting down doors and pushing over sarcophagi lids and stuff. If anyone dares step up, you set off fireballs.
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