Quote from: brettmb;310062Same here. Photos generally look pretty lame and out of place. They often disrupt the flow of the text.

To me, it looks pretty consistent with most of the other recent Who tie-ins that the BBC have published or endorsed. I wouldn't be surprised if part of the licensing deal with the BBC involves agreeing to keep the presentation of the product in-line with the rest of the tie-ins.

Besides, they probably won't be able to get enough photos of the new guy until after his term in "office" starts. I don't think it will hurt them too much. The big thing is that it's coming out before Christmas. Got any friends or relatives who are Dr Who fans and might be interested in RPGs? Now you know what to get them!

You know what excites me? The box contents. A player's handbook and GM guide of a decent size? Quickstart rules, pregenned characters, and a booklet of adventures to start out with? Dice and tokens and tactileness, oh my! It's got just about all the ingredients that a decent introductory boxed RPG should have to avoid being crippleware. Let's hope the design and writing are up to scratch.

Quote from: One Horse Town;310083Yep. We always get ripped off here. If something is $29, chances are it'll be £24 in the UK instead of giving even lip-service to the exchange rate.

Even if that is taken into account in this case, £40 is on the cards. Too high a price IMO.

Bear in mind, though, that a lot depends on where the thing is printed. If Cubicle are being smart, they'll have arranged with the BBC to use the printers they use for Dr Who tie-in material, since the game is quite likely to be pitched to the UK market (whereas even Dark Heresy, ostensibly based on a British-designed game universe, seems pitched to a global RPG market, which in practice means focusing on the States first and the UK second).

A full color boxed set that will sale for $60 US? Fantastic. A single XBOX 360 game goes for that much. This will provide just as much entertainment, if not more.

My wife is a Dr. Who nut and this might further her participation in RPGs.

And there really isn't a price too high for that development.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;310096I wouldn't be surprised. Dark Heresy retails for £40 which is about average price these days.

Yes, but dark heresy is marketed to a tiny number of collector dorks, not to a huge untapped multitude of kids who've never played RPGs before.

And that's the question C7 have to ask themselves: are they going for the tiny but sure number of collector dorks, which makes sure that this game will be just another mildly successful blip, or are they going for the millions of kids who are apeshit over Doctor Who and never played an RPG in their life?

Because if its the latter, they should stop fucking worrying about the glossy paper, and start worrying about making the price well under 30~pounds.

RPGPundit

Dark Heresy is one of the few RPGs regularly found in normal bookshops. That it wasn't marketed to the 40k crowd was because GW wouldn't put it in their normal stores and despite its success passed it on to FFG.

GW are, frankly, wankers and have been since around 1990. You'd think they'd want to run with and promote a success, but nooooo.

GW gave up the Dredd license, despite having a really awesome game. It sold almost no minis.
GW licensed out WFRP 1e because they didn't want to deal with it. HHP picked up the license, and gave it up because James Wallis was bored with it.
GW licensed out several board games (Space Crusade, Hero Quest, ASC, AHQ) that didn't need loads of add-on minis. Rules for same are available for free from Hasbro...
GW quit printing blood bowl after they migrated it from a board game to a minis game; part of that migration included lots of people building boards, rather than using GW's board. They still make (and sell) the minis, but the rules are now free.

GW is all about the minis. They keep changing the rules on the various races in WHFB and WH40K so that people need to buy new minis.

I have a wife who was a big Eden fan and is a huge Doctor Who fan (of the new series) who will be ecstatic the day this is released.
I'd play it, if I get to play a gay Torchwood leftenant.

Quote from: Warthur;310097To me, it looks pretty consistent with most of the other recent Who tie-ins that the BBC have published or endorsed.

It is. I have all the non-fiction books. Same trade dress.

I'm excited! It's coming out! It's coming out!

Seanchai

The cover looks like the X and X guidebooks they have put out.  (Which were cheap and full color for 13 bucks.  I still need the first of the 4 though.)

I want it, but 60 bucks is a bit much.  40 dollars and my ass would preorder that action right now.

As it stands I will be looking for it on discount sites.

Quote from: RPGPundit;310147Yes, but dark heresy is marketed to a tiny number of collector dorks, not to a huge untapped multitude of kids who've never played RPGs before.

And that's the question C7 have to ask themselves: are they going for the tiny but sure number of collector dorks, which makes sure that this game will be just another mildly successful blip, or are they going for the millions of kids who are apeshit over Doctor Who and never played an RPG in their life?

Because if its the latter, they should stop fucking worrying about the glossy paper, and start worrying about making the price well under 30~pounds.

RPGPundit

Dr Who isn't marketed to any bigger or different an audience at all. Both games are marketed to whomever wants to buy them. I see no evidence of a particular plan to sell Dr Who in a groundbreaking way for rpgs (unlike the proposed Dragon Age rpg thing that's coming out based on that video game). And it's not as if 40k isn't appreciated by largely the same audience anyway.

You might see Dr Who in shops like Waterstones but I think that'll be as far as it goes. Nothing new there, so was Dark Heresy.

Quote from: GRIM;310160Dark Heresy is one of the few RPGs regularly found in normal bookshops. That it wasn't marketed to the 40k crowd was because GW wouldn't put it in their normal stores and despite its success passed it on to FFG.

GW are, frankly, wankers and have been since around 1990. You'd think they'd want to run with and promote a success, but nooooo.

yep; i have never understood why GW shops don't sell products like DH or that ccg that came out a few years back, Or the videogame(s). They sell the novels, which seems no different. But then, they, and a lot of their staff, are just wankers indeed. I also object to their advertising jobs that don't exist as well. A classy act, during a recession.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;310279You might see Dr Who in shops like Waterstones but I think that'll be as far as it goes. Nothing new there, so was Dark Heresy.

The combination of wider retail distribution and massive UK brand recognition may result in something more. The BBC freely admits that it makes bundles from Who merchandise every year.

Quote from: Hackmastergeneral;310208I have a wife who was a big Eden fan and is a huge Doctor Who fan (of the new series) who will be ecstatic the day this is released.
I'd play it, if I get to play a gay Torchwood leftenant.

Last I heard Torchwood will be getting its own boxed set next year. It'll be a complete game using the same ruleset, but pitched to an older audience.

Torchwood? Mmmh... Not really my thing, but that's a real smart move in C7 part...


(I wonder whether they'll go on to publish rules for Mr. Smith and sonic lipstick? )

Quote from: SunBoy;310289Torchwood? Mmmh... Not really my thing, but that's a real smart move in C7 part...


(I wonder whether they'll go on to publish rules for Mr. Smith and sonic lipstick? )

A Sarah Jane boxed set was also mentioned.

Of course this was almost two years ago, when the Who set was scheduled for a 2008 release. Things may have changed since then.