Funny most game companies I know are pretty, well, quiet about their standings politically. I don't buy games like Rahowna or FATAL, does that count?

 I think some people are right silly about politics, I might refuse to buy something because of someone's politics. So far it has not been a factor. There are extreme examples, such as the two games above,  that might cause me to stop buying from a company simply because their politics are so abhorrent, no money should go from my hand to theirs. I wouldn't intentionally support a racist or otherwise hate mongering company. (Gender, sexuality, etc, etc.)

The politics of the company isn't a factor in my purchases, unless they negatively influence the game itself (Blue Rose, etc.); as was already said, I would buy an RPG written by Hitler if it was good.

Quote from: Koltar;306602Do gaming companies really make enough money that they can donate to anything?

Maybe WOTC or their parent company, HASBRO.  Most gaming companies, IF they donate to any cause or charity then I bet its a local one.

 For example: It wouldn't surprise me if the employees of Steve Jackson Games donate to a local Austin, Texas charity each year.


- Ed C.

White Wolf has been donating to preserve wolves for ages now.

Quote from: Spinachcat;306526Interestin' gamin' is all I give a damn about.

And for me, Palladium makes damn interestin' games.

Looking forward to seeing what they do with their urban combat RPG coming...sooner or later...written by the Detroit cop based on his very down and dirty novel of violent crime.   Pretty sure the author and I have different politics, but I want to see what kind of fun comes out of his brain.

Yeah unfortunatly the manuscript has already be written. But now KS has to rewrite it. So you may never know the original politics, or views on the subject matter. Much like Dead Reign, was rewritten and changed into something else.

Well I find all this "if the designer's politics negatively affects the setting" slightly funny. Most times it merely means that one disagrees with the politics itself. As mentioned upthread, this really isn't an issue with me.

Regards,
David R

Quote from: mhensley;306562I won't buy from Troll Lord again because they make craptastic products.  There's lots of free games with better production values.

I don't want to totally derail here, but that's exactly what I thought when I picked up the 1st PHB printing for C&C, as well as Yggsburgh.  But to me it seems they've cleaned up their act--my 3rd Printing of the PHB was much cleaned up, and looking through the 3rd printing of Monsters & Treasures I just got, they've even spruced up the layout a bit.  I hope the trend continues, because I like their game.

Quote from: Zachary The First;306741I don't want to totally derail here, but that's exactly what I thought when I picked up the 1st PHB printing for C&C, as well as Yggsburgh.  But to me it seems they've cleaned up their act--my 3rd Printing of the PHB was much cleaned up, and looking through the 3rd printing of Monsters & Treasures I just got, they've even spruced up the layout a bit.  I hope the trend continues, because I like their game.

The last two products I recently got from them (a weapons & armor book and the engineering dungeons book) were both very sub-par in quality and in content.  Never again.

hmmm...the collectability of a hitler written rpg would be right off the scales.  Do you think he'd have done it before or after Mein Kampft?  After he became chancelor?  I expect at the very least it would have racial stat mods for the varieties of humans and would likely be extremely crunchy while claiming to be a rules lite story telling game.

My vote for title would be Livingspace

Quote from: mhensley;306743The last two products I recently got from them (a weapons & armor book and the engineering dungeons book) were both very sub-par in quality and in content.  Never again.

I just got those as well...not exactly priceless layout, but I didn't mind them.  Good content, I thought.  Sorry to hear your experience didn't measure up.  Anyhow, sorry to derail...

Put me in the "I don't give a shit either" category.

Most of the things I buy funnel money to something I don't agree with or would have at least some people working for it who do things I hate.

The only thing I wouldn't do is like what Pundit was talking about - buy something that's put out by someone who is primarily focused on doing something evil and just selling whatever to get money to fund it (thankfully,terrorist organizations like the KKK, Earth First!, and Al Qaeda aren't putting out any cool RPGs these days so there is nothing to worry about).

If a company is emphatically and openly: pro-abortion, anti-Catholic, anti-Orthodox, or anti-American... I won't knowingly buy their product.

If the product is openly advocating any of the above, nope, won't buy it if I am aware of it.

So far, only a handful of products have I refused to buy or read on the basis of offensiveness.

Only one company has crossed the politics threshold for me. Palladium Books. Their nastygrams to local used book stores over using promo posters bought from fans to advertise that they had used copies of PB's games was one straw too many.

Quote from: aramis;307041... anti-American... I won't knowingly buy their product.

Haven't heard this one before.

Regards,
David R

Quote from: David R;307050Haven't heard this one before.

Regards,
David R

It's unpatriotic, dontcha know.

Quote from: David R;307050Haven't heard this one before.

Regards,
David R

Now that I think of it , I DID see a game that bordered on "anti-American"....and that depends how strict your definition of that is.

It was a D20 Modern or near future book put out by a 3rd party publisher.
This was back in late 2003 or 2004. The publisher was one I think has sice failed or they've cut back on their release swchedule quite a bit.  It also had slightly anniying green text on a black background for several pages - making it difficult to browse or read.

I remember thinking  - "This might irritate a few people" when I read over the assumpfions and premise in the opening pages.
It basically didn't sell and was pulled from our shelves and sent somewhere else after 6 or 7 months.

Still wish I could remember the name of it. If there had been more 'Judge Dredd/2000 AD' sort of humor to it - it would've been a better read.


- Ed C.

Quote from: aramis;307041Only one company has crossed the politics threshold for me. Palladium Books. Their nastygrams to local used book stores over using promo posters bought from fans to advertise that they had used copies of PB's games was one straw too many.

That one is news to me. Then again, it is just batshit enough to sound like the kind of thing Kevin Siembieda would do.

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