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HARP Vs. MRunequest Vs. Pathfinder

Started by vomitbrown, January 25, 2009, 12:54:29 PM

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David Johansen

Quote from: vomitbrown;280519The idea of getting into Rolemaster in these 4th Edition days sounds pretty damn cool. There's something "i'm old-school hardcore" about it. But, why would I get into Rolemaster when HARP, which is RMlite, is around and supported?

Let's see, HARP hasn't really seen much support in the last year or two.  RMSS is very well supported, just not with new stuff.  But outside of the War Law / Sea Law for RM2, RMSS is the most complete and best supported version of the game and will continue to be for a couple decades at ICE's current rate of production.

RMSS is in print, you can order the books or pdfs from ICE directly.  ICE does their own POD and binding these days so you can always get hard copy.

As for RM-Lite.  That's a little like having a lite cheesecake.
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Quote from: Drohem;280526You should check out Rolemaster Express.  It is a simplified version of Rolemaster Classic.  The PDF is relatively cheap, and it's a good way to ease back into Rolemaster.

Rolemaster Express is a great way to ease into Rolemaster.  I dig it!  :D
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Zachary The First

Quote from: Akrasia;280731Rolemaster Express is a great way to ease into Rolemaster.  I dig it!  :D

I do wish we'd see some more HARP support, though.  It seemed to just stop about 18 months or so ago.
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Welcome to my world Zachary.  They dropped theSpacemaster Privateers and RMSS magazines right around the same time.

ICE is too small to support everything and so when they're doing one thing they do nothing else.  Right now it's RMC.

All told I really believe they dropped the ball when they did HARP in the first place.  What was needed was an RMSS compatible entry level game that would bring back the RM2 fans.  No it's not easy to do, I've wasted a great deal of time on the project myself.  It'd help if they'd made a few more changes to RMFRP but like all of this that's water under the bridge.

Instead what we have is three incompatible systems and a company that can't reasonably support even one of them.

And Tim, if you can hear me I'd love for you to prove me wrong.
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Zachary The First

Quote from: David Johansen;280955Welcome to my world Zachary.  They dropped theSpacemaster Privateers and RMSS magazines right around the same time.

ICE is too small to support everything and so when they're doing one thing they do nothing else.  Right now it's RMC.

All told I really believe they dropped the ball when they did HARP in the first place.  What was needed was an RMSS compatible entry level game that would bring back the RM2 fans.  No it's not easy to do, I've wasted a great deal of time on the project myself.  It'd help if they'd made a few more changes to RMFRP but like all of this that's water under the bridge.

Instead what we have is three incompatible systems and a company that can't reasonably support even one of them.

And Tim, if you can hear me I'd love for you to prove me wrong.

We ran a RMFRP/RMSS hybrid.  Just when picked all that up, they started the big  RM2 push.  It's like I'm always one game off. :)

Some of my players are interested in a side game using HARP, but the harphq site hasn't been updated in a while--makes it look stagnant and unsupported.
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Quote from: David Johansen;280955All told I really believe they dropped the ball when they did HARP in the first place.  What was needed was an RMSS compatible entry level game that would bring back the RM2 fans.  No it's not easy to do, I've wasted a great deal of time on the project myself.  It'd help if they'd made a few more changes to RMFRP but like all of this that's water under the bridge.

Instead what we have is three incompatible systems and a company that can't reasonably support even one of them.

HARP is a fantastic game though. It really does something different. Does it really have to be a zero sum game for ICE?

And not to derail the thread, but are there any hotbeds of HARP activity out there on the internet? Fan forums and the like?
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